[A Ruckus of Dogs]

No, you end up dead because you had to wait too long for that needed life-saving medical procedure that has been rationed. Nik

I've got relatives in Europe. While many times they have had to wait a long time to see a doctor, no one died.

I'm not putting up socialized medicine as the solution, but our own system is far from utopian.

[Nowhere Man]

I've got relatives in Europe. While many times they have had to wait a long time to see a doctor, no one died.

I'm not putting up socialized medicine as the solution, but our own system is far from utopian.

I have a friend in Sweden and he can get into the doctor's office right away and he only has to pay $15 co-pay per visit. I think it is just a matter of time before we have some sort of single payer system here, if it is run right, I don't think it would be a bad idea either.