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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Jamestown/Pilgrims to start

Do I really need to do a google search for you on settlers/Indians/living together?

Certainly, there were people that lived alongside Indians in peace.

Basic history, many of the colonists traded and learned from the Indians.

The point is to ask you to put into perspective your comment about settlers/White Men as invaders.


16 posted on 12/27/2005 10:02:48 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: wallcrawlr
Had the europeans moved into an area and assimilated and lived according to the rules and regs in place by those who lived here first, I don't think they would have been seen as invaders.

The fact is that they barged into someone else's real estate, set up their own governments and rules, and then DEMANDED that the native folks comply with these changes.

Kinda big chutzpa if you ask me.

How would you like a bunch of illegals moving into your neighborhood, and then telling you that you had to comply with rules that they established? Your town council is disbanded, you don't need it, we'll set up a court and tell you how to act.

Kinda pushy, huh?
19 posted on 12/27/2005 10:12:47 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: wallcrawlr
"The point is to ask you to put into perspective your comment about settlers/White Men as invaders."

Uh, there were no White men in North America, after they came, the Indians lost everything to the Whites, their lands, their way of life, their very lives. And that is just for starters.

BTW, how long did the Indians survive around Jamestown after settlement began?

Here is just bit of early 1700's Virginia history, it is fascinating reading. The man wrote what he truly felt and thought, actually very hilarious in several places of his narrative.

The Westover Manuscripts: http://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/byrd/byrd.html
31 posted on 12/27/2005 12:37:41 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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