[Kolokotronis]

"Obviously the orders weren't valid, or the Holy Spirit would have kept that crowd out of error and heresy.

Kolokotronis, any comment on this?"

I think, S, that that is an extremely dangerous idea to carry around or bandy about. The greatest heretics in The Church were usually hierarchs with perfectly valid orders and impeccable Apostolic pedigrees.

So were Martin Luther's, as I recall.

[sionnsar]

Thanks, K. If my brain weren't so fuzzy today I'd have figured that out. I'd immediately thought of your comments in the past on (the quick rooting out of) heresy in the Orthodox church and thought, "This statement cannot be right." Even the Roman church has not always been free from error.

But it was ECUSA's failure to apply correction to Pike that should have been at least a strong indication that trouble was brewing within.