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FBI Official Defends Radiation Monitoring (program stopped)
AP/Yahoo News ^ | Dec. 23, 2005 | LARRY MARGASAK,

Posted on 12/23/2005 7:07:18 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion
"Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington-based civil rights arab terrorist group,...

There:
fixed!

21 posted on 12/23/2005 7:36:37 PM PST by Redbob
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To: FairOpinion
Can we legally monitor smoke and polluted water emissions without a search warrant?
22 posted on 12/23/2005 7:38:04 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: FairOpinion
"Has the entire country gone mad?"

Sure looks like it. The same fools who are so concerned about extending gun control are now all bent out of shape protecting Muslim rights to have nukes in their mosques. Go figure!

23 posted on 12/23/2005 7:39:19 PM PST by Reo
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To: Raycpa

First of all anything that's on public property can be monitored, second of all, this is about preventing a MAJOR catastrohpy, the magnitude of which people can't even comprehend.


24 posted on 12/23/2005 7:40:05 PM PST by FairOpinion (Merry Christmas!)
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To: FairOpinion

Members of the far left are trying very hard to bring this nation down. Where do they plan to be when it happens? How are they going to keep their own families safe, since they seem to be telling the rest of us to go to hell?


25 posted on 12/23/2005 7:40:40 PM PST by Just Lori (End the leftist occupation of America!)
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To: FairOpinion
From the American Thinker:

Another suicidal national security leak

Media outlets are now racing each other to expose vital national security secrets to mass-murdering terrorists. US News & World Report just gave our enemies another tip(Reuters:Mosques monitered for radioactive material:report): Don't store your dirty bomb materials in a mosque.

The US has been monitoring for radioactive materials in US mosques, because if you want to kill a lot of people, the dirty bomb is your weapon of choice. All it takes is some uranium or radium in a truck full of dynamite. If the 9/11 terrorists had carried radioactive materials on board their four hijacked aircraft, we would now be digging bomb shelters in our gardens.

As a result of this criminal leak of a vital program, future terrorists will be sure to store their radioactive materials outside of mosques. Now we do not know where to look.

Thank you, mainstream media. You may kill us all yet, but you will defend the public's right to know to the last man, woman and child in the United States.

It is past time to prosecute leakers and "journalists" to the full extent of the law. The US Constitution is not a suicide pact...posted by Editor approx.10PMEST

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What in the hell do we have to do to get these fools to STFU.

26 posted on 12/23/2005 7:40:42 PM PST by smoothsailing (MERRY CHRISTMAS FREEPERS !!!)
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks for posting the excerpt from the American Thinker.

It's maddening to see people putting politics, because that's what this is all about, above the safety of the American people.


27 posted on 12/23/2005 7:42:56 PM PST by FairOpinion (Merry Christmas!)
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To: FairOpinion
"This creates the appearance that Muslims are targeted simply for being Muslims. I don't think this is the message the government wants to send at this time," he said.

Sounds to me like the prudent and responsible thing to do.

28 posted on 12/23/2005 7:47:48 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: FairOpinion
I was getting ready to post it as a thread, but luckily I noticed yours and thought it best incorporated here.

It is without a doubt politics,but politics literally at it's deadliest.It's infuriating, and somehow it has to be stopped.

29 posted on 12/23/2005 7:53:54 PM PST by smoothsailing (MERRY CHRISTMAS FREEPERS !!!)
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To: smoothsailing
Remember, the New York Times building was not attacked on 9/11.

There's a good reason for that.

30 posted on 12/23/2005 8:00:15 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: smoothsailing

I think the way to stop it is to prosecute all involved the full extent of the law.

After those revealing such info and those publishing it get 20 years in prison, it will dampen the enthusiasm of others to follow in their footsteps, but since they never get punished,there is not deterrent.


31 posted on 12/23/2005 8:00:34 PM PST by FairOpinion (Merry Christmas!)
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To: sadimgnik
So when, under a Democrat-led administration, authorities decide that niceties such as search warrants are not required, you'll be happy to have BATF agents search your place for tobacco remains, as part of the war-on-cancer?

I'm not a lawyer but I did have to take some training in search and seizure law. The operative phrase here is "expectation of privacy". The courts have pretty consistently held that if you do something in public areas you have no "expectation of privacy" and therefore a warrant is not necessary. You put your garbage on the street then it is public domain and can be searched without a warrant. You dump isotopes into the air which are picked up by the FBI OPERATING IN PUBLIC SPACE and you have no expectation of privacy. You don't need a warrant. Even most liberal judges will agree with the FBI's actions here. Take a deep breath.

32 posted on 12/23/2005 8:01:08 PM PST by bluetone006 (Peace - or I guess war if given no other option)
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To: TheCrusader
Search warrants are typically used in criminal cases, this is warfare we're engaged in....HUGE difference.

THat's what the liberals think - terrorists must be handled like criminals lest America harm someone's rights. Rights of liberlas are more important than American lives. There won't be any leak investigation. Such an investigation will be called a witch hunt against those exposing the administration's corruption and will confirm to the tin-foil-hat liberals that Bush really is hiding something illegal. I hate liberals.

33 posted on 12/23/2005 8:03:14 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Surely even the left would give us some slack looking for them pesky nukes. No.

Examples of what our better educated, more compassionate, open minded leftist friends feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel. (Not DU)

"Let's get all of this c*** out in the open, so the rest of the country can see just exactly what these b******s have been up to."

(Of course, there were comparisons to sending Japanese and Americans of Japanese descent to "internment" camps.)

(and of course) racial profiling!!

(and of course, racism!!) "makes my blood boil. Everything an excuse to practice racism. Sick"

(the victims of Bush) "you are seeing the numbers growing exponentially"

(and of course, threats) Bush, stop making war on "us." We're asking you nicely just one more time."

End of summary (They really, really feeeeeel strongly about this. They lifted the restriction on how many times you could use the F-word in a sentence.)

To be fair a couple (out of about 200) did acknowledge that just maybe there may be a need to worry about those pesky nuke thingies. They hate Bush nevertheless.

The single truthful statement on the site was, "We had a saying, back in the 60s: 'Question Authority.' After awhile, we turned to Thoreau: 'Stop the Machine!'"

Well, there it is. Today's left. Still hoping to "bring it all down, man."

None of these "issues" is about rights. The issue is not the issue. It's about "bring it all down, man" and has been for decades. It's about whose America survives.

34 posted on 12/23/2005 8:09:05 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: nightdriver

"Sounds to me like the prudent and responsible thing to do."

The prudent and responsible thing to do would be to go medieval on their @sses. Give mooslimbs born here the option of converting or leaving. The rest, get the hell out.


35 posted on 12/23/2005 8:10:37 PM PST by dsc (‚³‚æ‚­‚µ‚ñ‚¶‚Ü‚¦)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Shouldn't someone be in jail for blabbing about this?

Not unless Karl Rove leaked it.

36 posted on 12/23/2005 8:14:44 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: FairOpinion
Everything is "without a warrant" now. As if every police action is a "search" or every "search" requires a warrant. Obviously that is not the case or every officer who pulls you over, looks in your car, and asks to see your license would need to get a warrant. He doesn't, not before, after, from the FISA court or anywhere else.

But the media is only pretending not to know these things. Leftists/ democrats are very immoral destructive people.

37 posted on 12/23/2005 8:34:26 PM PST by Williams
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To: FairOpinion
Again from American Thinker:

The NSA leak investigation

Michael Ledeen forwards an interesting idea about the leaks. It has the virtue of speed and maximimum deterrence for such leaks:

A smart friend writes in to support the call by Mark Levin and me for an investigation of the leaks to Jim Risen et al:

Forget about prosecuting anyone for now. Justice should set up a special full time grand jury, meeting five days a week, to questions everyone connected in any way with the leak, including congressional staffers and elected officials. Everyone gets a grant of immunity for any underlying crimes before testifying. The only thing they can be prosecuted for is perjury.

It would take about an hour to put each person on record against future perjury charges. Do you know reporter x? Did you talk with reporter x, what was the nature of your conversation etc. etc.

Witnesses are required, as a condition of employment by the CIA, to reveal their testimory to CIA counsel. Those who leaked have three options. They can refuse to testify and be held in contempt, since immunity has been granted and fifth amendment protections are irrelevant, at which point the CIA has grounds for dismissing them. They can tell the truth, admit to leaking, and be fired . Or they can lie and hope that Riesen and company won't give them up after sitting in jail for six months. Most will probably tell the truth and resign their positions.

The point here is that instead of dragging this thru the legal system for years, the whole issue could most likely be resolved in a matter of weeks. The removal of these employees would have a powerful deterrent effect as well.

38 posted on 12/23/2005 8:37:20 PM PST by smoothsailing (MERRY CHRISTMAS FREEPERS !!!)
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To: sadimgnik
Why do you think the government needs a warrant to test radiation levels in a driveway or parking lot? They don't, anymore than a police car needs a warrant to drive through a parking lot on a routine patrol. I'm sorry, but your question reflects a certain dumbing down of society, even among conservatives. Some things are searches, some are not. Some searches require a warrant, others do not.

Next time you ask a police officer to help you out with a problem, like chasing down a guy who just mugged you, do you want the cop to say "What, without a search or arrest warrant??"

39 posted on 12/23/2005 8:39:13 PM PST by Williams
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To: FairOpinion

Judge and Jury. There is a major difference between law enforcement agents and the military. The military, by constitutional directive, is empowered to fight enemy combatants, law enforcement is charged with keeping the peace and arresting criminals.

On the battlefield, soldiers are given the authority of judge, jury and executioner. When engaged, soldiers have to determine if the "suspect" is an enemy and then decie what amount of force must be exerted in order to saegaurd their lives and accomplish their mission. If the current directives from their superiors is to take prisoners, then a soldier will take steps to use non-lethal force when it does not endanger themselves or their unit. But the bottom line is their is no judge, no warrants, no juries on the battlefield. Their job is to find the enemy and kill the enemy (or take captives for intelligence operations).

Whether we like it or not, the U.S. proper IS a battlefield in the WOT. There are enemies in this country - some "soldiers", some "propagandists", and some "apologists". If these enemies were located anywhere in the world, other than here, they would be engaged militarily and killed without remorse, without warrant and without judicial oversight. To date, the current administration is doing everything in its power to fight the enemy on this battlefield without unleashing the power of the military. He has opted to try to let all of us continue to live our lives with the least amount of inconvenience.

If the President decided, or decides in the future, that the threat is too great to continue to allow our citizens to live in "bliss", he has the constitutional authority to declare Martial Law and militarize any portion of the country. If, for instance, al qaeda was able to set off a nuclear weapon in this country, the niceties would be thrown out. The Military would be brought in and every Muslim, person of Middle East origin and anyone else who has shown sympathy for the enemy would be rounded up and confined. And every building and city in America would have not protection from Military operations to hunt down and kill the enemy.

We are in a state of war. We can choose to fight this war on our soil with an iron fist or we can choose to fight this war with the least amount of inconvenience to our citizens. Right now, Bush and our security apparatus is trying to do the later, but they could just as easily do the former. American Citizens need to realize the additional efforts and risks involved in fighting this way and if their civil liberties are infringed upon for the greater good, then get over it - because you could just as easily be sitting in a stadium under armed gaurd.

Bush is pushing the limits, but not doing anything that anyone with a little common sense wouldn't DEMAND that he do given the current state of war. So here's what we should all expect. If you are involved in any activity that might put you in a position to be communicating or working with our enemy, you're gonna be on the radar. And you should be happy you are, not leaking to the NYTimes.


40 posted on 12/23/2005 8:40:12 PM PST by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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