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1 posted on 12/22/2005 6:51:13 PM PST by WatchYourself
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To: WatchYourself
I've often thought having everything in English and Spanish is partially a very cynical attempt by the powers that be to discourage illegals from learning English. If they can't speak the language and assimilate, they can be assured of a permanent underclass, working for $5 an hour. If the illegals complain, they can be easily threatened with deportation.

If that's not slavery, I don't know what is. I'd like to see some of the business criminals who hire these people do some hard time.
2 posted on 12/22/2005 6:55:11 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: WatchYourself


So...

Letting them in = racist slavery

Kicking them out = racist slavery

Expecting them to work = racist slavery

Putting them on welfare = racist slavery

...I'm stumped - what are we supposed to do then?


3 posted on 12/22/2005 6:55:59 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: WatchYourself

Exactly!

What good host would make his guest work?


4 posted on 12/22/2005 6:56:33 PM PST by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: WatchYourself
Washington bureaucrats are confident that once this Pandora’s Box is opened, it will be impossible to close. So if they propose and adopt a twenty-point program to “secure” the nation’s borders, Americans can be assured that the first nineteen points will ultimately be ignored, and the last point, a “guest worker” program (surprise, surprise), will be the only agenda item to see the light of day.

Exactly. Any "reform" that contains the words "guest worker" will be just so much empty promises of enforcement wrapped around the reality of open borders.

5 posted on 12/22/2005 6:56:57 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: WatchYourself
America’s recent media-inspired floundering in the “War on Terror” unequivocally proves that the greatest threat to the future of the country results not on account of foreign aggression, but from an ascending culture within our homeland that is indifferent or ignorant of the principles on which America was founded. Until the border crisis is honestly and realistically addressed, it will only continue to aggravate this dangerously burgeoning problem.

Game, set, match.

6 posted on 12/22/2005 6:57:29 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: WatchYourself

Businesses expect to continue with cheap labor after a "Guest Worker" program, but with a newfound legal status, won't the guest workers be able to demand the same pay as Americans?


14 posted on 12/22/2005 7:04:06 PM PST by Boiling point (If God had not meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!)
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To: WatchYourself; AZRepublican; flashbunny; Stellar Dendrite; kellynla; ARCADIA; DumpsterDiver; ...
Recently, Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff announced an ostensible policy that elated those Americans who have been increasingly concerned about the invasion of illegals across the nation’s southern border. According to Chertoff, all such people needed to be escorted out of the country, and within the amazing timetable of one year. Yet, as with all great deals that sound too good to be true, this one certainly was. Within days, Chertoff was backtracking and waffling, ultimately revealing the real goal of his outlandish pronouncement to be a grand scheme of smoke and mirrors, with a “guest worker” program residing far back within its dark recesses. Here, Chertoff tipped the hand of Washington insiders whose phony professions of alarm over the illegal problem belie an ominous agenda.

Yep!

15 posted on 12/22/2005 7:05:25 PM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: WatchYourself

You got that right.

As I've said before...

If those who employ illegals were given tickets and fined for every illegal for every day they employ them they would stop hiring illegals and the illegals would stop coming. This would change the flood of illegals coming across the border to a tricle and would leave just those involved in smuggling or some sort of criminality to pick up. It sickens me the way these supposedly Conservative commentators work overtime to sell this "Guest Worker" nonsense. Their "Put Troops on the Border" talk is just talk to make them sound like they're really tough on illegals,when what they're pushing for would bring even more of the third world here to take jobs use services and drive down wages for everyone. It's a lie that "They are only taking jobs Americans won't do." There are already exemptions for migrant agricultural workers who do the harvesting, as their should be. There should be no fines for those hiring migrant agricultural workers. Under "Guest Worker" however they wouldn't be taking just the low wage jobs. It would be any job where the employer says that they can't get enough people to apply for the job at what they are willing to pay. Might your employer like to pay less? If Rush and Bill O`Reilly love "Guest Worker" so much maybe some graduates of the University of Bombay with degrees in broadcasting can take over their jobs for much less pay.


16 posted on 12/22/2005 7:07:49 PM PST by voteconstitutionparty
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To: WatchYourself

I don't agree with the characterization of individuals willingly working for agreed upon wages as slavery as that would make us all slaves, but this is not necessarily the hill I wish to die on.


36 posted on 12/22/2005 8:27:38 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: WatchYourself

Last night on the Lou Dobbs' show (CNN) there was a discussion of illegal immigration and one of the guests, Congressman Tom Tancredo, raised this very apposite question: We see that Fox engages in outrageous violations of American sovereignty and encourages this invasion of our borders. We all know this. BUT - where is George Bush? Why isn't he upholding his constitutional oath to defend us against foreign invasion and why is he aiding and abetting a policy that's clearly brought us social, economic, and political disaster? The NSA "spy" matter is not an impeachable offense but an important part of national security. However, Bush's "no border" policy clearly endangers us socially and economically but also in terms of NATIONAL SECURITY!! If some terrorists waltz across the border and kill thousands of Americans will Bush go into hiding and say he just wanted a few hispanic votes and thought they came here to do jobs Americans wouldn't do? Dick Morris said long ago that that would be a truly impeachable offense. He's right!!


37 posted on 12/22/2005 8:37:55 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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ping


38 posted on 12/22/2005 8:38:01 PM PST by gubamyster
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marking


43 posted on 12/22/2005 11:01:31 PM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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To: WatchYourself

"Guest Worker' Programs: Open-Ended Slavery" or how can you keep em down on the farm.


71 posted on 12/29/2005 8:00:13 AM PST by stocksthatgoup ("It's inexcusable to tell us to 'connect the dots' and not give us the tools to do so." G W Bush)
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