[Tarpon]

Maybe the terrorists suspects aren't in the watch list database. If they were, then it would kick them out as not eligible. But suppose they just walked over from Mexico, picked up their brand new fake IDs and headed to the gun stores.

I don't see trying to stop Americans from getting killed as domestic spying. It is a foreign enemy who happens to be able to infiltrate the country -- Like what happened on 9/11. The goal, in case you lost sight, is to stop the Islamo-Fascists before they kill more Americans.

Domestic spying, that would be like storing political opponents FBI files at the White House -- Ooops that's been done already, law or no law.

[Realism]

The goal, in case you lost sight, is to stop the Islamo-Fascists before they kill more Americans.

Sure, anything goes. We all have good intentions. The forefathers discussed this at length and their warnings have been passed on thru generations yet fear rules the day.