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To: jbloedow

Doesn't it make you just a tad suspicious that the scientists trotted out opposing evolution are basically entirely lab-based theoreticians?

And you basically can't find any that are people that have been out in the field digging up fossils and then examining them; paleonotologists and geologists are virtually non-existent on the ever-popular lists of creation "scientists."

(The Institute Creation Research MAY have an actual geologist or two that didn't get their degree from some microscopic non-accredited Bible College diploma factory - I forget...but the reality is that the two critical fields I named are notably absent from virtually all the lists posted.)

If you had a bunch of physicists and chemists in laboratories claiming birds couldn't fly on a theoretical basis, but all the field biologists who were out actually watching birds, or the biologists examining actual birds in their labs were never found on "lists of scientists who believe birds can't fly" wouldn't you be just a tiny bit suspicious of the claim that birds can't fly?


298 posted on 12/21/2005 9:52:22 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
paleonotologists and geologists are virtually non-existent on the ever-popular lists of creation "scientists."

I have told others many times how the strata is ignored by creationists.

324 posted on 12/21/2005 10:16:47 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Strategerist
Doesn't it make you just a tad suspicious that the scientists trotted out opposing evolution are basically entirely lab-based theoreticians?

First of all, I think we should stop for a moment and examine your operating assumptions. Your post is dripping with presuppositional contempt for the professional qualifications of those people who disagree with you. I realize that as a Darwinist there is no rational basis for according a fundamental dignity to other human beings -- they're just matter in motion, the products of an undirected, value-less process, so maybe I should not expect any more. But from the point of view of this discussion, let's just acknowledge that you're not approaching this scientifically, but dogmatically.

Secondly, you are attempt to dodge my point -- hey, that's unusual!!! -- and take the discussion in a new direction. I was countering some genius' claim that these people couldn't speak to issues of biology because they were chemists! Anyone who has any understanding of science -- to borrow a phrase -- realizes that to claim that you can't speak to biology because you are an expert in chemistry is about as stupid a statement as there is.

Maybe if I have time I'll engage you in a discussion as to why the fields of paleontology and geology have becomes as inbred as you say they have.

362 posted on 12/21/2005 11:06:13 AM PST by jbloedow
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