Pastor's (Joel Osteen's)wife involved in flight disturbance

ABC 13 ^ | 12-20-05 | Jessica Willey

[NewLand]

I too am disgusted at how quick freepers are to condemn the preacher and his wife, swallowing the AP "news" hook line and sinker. Who more than AP would rather bring a preacher down, especially a successful one who reaches millions of people.

Bingo.

No matter what you think of Osteen, it doesn't matter. The issues at hand here are;

1) The overall credibility we should assign to AP. The answer is ZERO.
2) The support we should give to any news they report. The answer, again, is ZERO.

AP must be ignored until they change or go away. FReepers or conservatives who propogate anything reported by AP are also propogating their agenda...as you said, hook, line, and sinker!

[NewLand]

If I have to educate you on the means and motives of the liberal media, their bias, their agenda, their tactics...well, I don't want to do that in public, for your sake. Plus, it's time consuming.

Maybe you should read a few basic books on the topic first, review some websites like Accuracy In Media, then come back and tell me about the AP.

[Revolting cat!]

As I said on another thread, some come here to assert their superiority over others. No Master, you don't have to educate anyone here about the biases of MSM in general, and AP in particular. We already know. But you keep throwing nothing but smoke screen without addressing the main issue you yourself raised: what is false in this story? Indeed, what could be false in this story, other than a small detail or two? It didn't happen, you say?

And as far as media biases against Christians, please read the direct quotes above from this Holy Man and a brief post #30 on this thread.

[NewLand]

You still don't get it. I am not interested in or adressing what you refer to as 'the main issue'. I did not even address the issue of if her actions were true or not. I don't care either way. Period.

What is more 'main'...the liberal media attacks against Conservatives and Christians, or if some pastor's wife thru a hissy fit?

You just go ahead and keep relying on the AP for your news...and be one of those "Pick and Choose" conservatives who relies on the AP or Hollywood or Katie Couric whenever they say something you like.

Maybe instead of reading books on media bias, you should read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" and learn about how we can lose faith in someone after so many lies...even when they DO tell the truth!

[truthandlife]

Victoria Osteen and FBI have different views on what occurred aboard airliner (Houston Chronicle, 12-22-05)

[csvset]

I don't fly that often, so I'm trying to recall what the stewardess' ask you to do prior to take off. Sit in your seat. Check. Buckle up. Check. Seat & tray in up position. Check. Carry on baggage in overhead compartment. Check.

Now here's where it's sketchy. I don't use cellphones, but , if I recall, correctly, don't they ask passengers not to use them until they're giving the ok by the crew?

If that is the case, I wonder if this was a case of cellphone "rage"? That is, someone who thinks that they are "important" is told to get off of the phone.

Pure speculation on my part.

[DBeers]

There is a growing contingent here that will go off 1/3 cocked, or quarter-cocked and less.

Some are trolls.

[shiva]

With as much money they fleece from the flock

how do they do that?

[presently no screen name]

He was not poor. Rich or poor is not what He was about. Do poor people say, "Jesus was poor so He understands what it is like". Incredible. They missed the whole point. "May you prosper as your soul prospers".

[foreveryoung88]

isn't robison the one who sells vitamin b-12 on the air with his wife? i hate these televangelists who use their position of trust to sell something; schuller, jr. tried it for awhile behind sunglasses on a yacht;

[flygirl9]

Actually she was black.

[Steve_Seattle]

Belated reply - I've never seen Robison sell vitamins on-air, but I don't watch him that often, either. Usually I see him asking for money for some African relief projects he's established. One of the projects is to build wells to provide clean water in villages.

[Marysecretary]

I always joke about the big hair I see on the Gaither Homecooming videos and then I end with, and those are just the men!

[Marysecretary]

Why is it when Christians prosper and go to places like Aspen to ski, the are condemned? Don't they have a right to a good life? Christians don't HAVE to be poor. God gives the wealth and He doesn't mind our having good clean fun as long as we tithe and give to others as well. We don't need to be extravagent but there's nothing wrong with living well.

[Marysecretary]

I enjoy listening to him. We need a positive message because Christians have often been pounded into the ground by people who judge and condemn and expect them to act a certain way. We've often been expected to be worms and not worthy (and this is from other Christians!). It can get to you sometimes.

[oceanperch]

My son LOVES Mark Lowry.

Has all his CD's and cassettes which have been replaced by CD's.

[oceanperch]

So did Britney really get tired of Federline mooching off of her or is that more media Lies? /sarcasm

[Petronski]

HOW did he prosper?