Posted on 12/20/2005 4:08:06 PM PST by truthandlife
A dispute that involved the wife of Houston's most famous pastor, Joel Osteen, and a Continental Airlines flight attendant ended up delaying a flight for hours Monday. And now, Victoria Osteen's actions on that flight are in the spotlight. Also on ABC13.com: Send us a news tip | RSS feeds | ABC13 E-lert | Info mentioned on air Statements from Lakewood and Continental Following the incident on Continental flight 1602 Monday, both Lakewood Church and Continental Airlines released these statements. The Osteens run the largest church in the nation, so passengers on a Continental flight were shocked Monday when Mrs. Osteen was removed from that flight after a disturbance.
Taking time off from the high profile hustle and bustle of running a mega-church, Lakewood Church Pastor Joel Osteen and his family boarded Continental flight 1602 Monday morning at Houston's big airport. They were bound for the slopes in Colorado.
Their trip was delayed and so was the entire flight by almost two hours. Fellow passengers blame the popular Osteens, specifically Joel's wife, Victoria.
According to passenger accounts, the Osteens were sitting in first class. Soon after the plane's door was closed, the FBI says Victoria Osteen was removed following what Continental would call only a disturbance. The Osteens' spokesman confirms it involved a flight attendant, but that's all. However, one passenger tells Eyewitness News she was alerted to the front of the plane when she heard a commotion.
"She violently ran towards the cockpit, scaring everyone around her," said passenger Knicky Van Slyke. "Everyone was terrified about what was going on. And a bunch of flight attendants ran up and had to restrain her. She was banging on the door."
"Of the cockpit?" we asked.
"Yes."
Passengers say Victoria was removed first. Joel and the children followed. Meantime, everyone waited.
"They unloaded all the luggage to get their luggage and deplaned her, Joel, and the kids," said passenger Dawn Dixon.
Passenger Chad Clay said, "They kept telling us they were waiting on some passengers to find their luggage underneath in the plane, and it was going to be delayed for looking for that luggage."
According to the Transportation Security Administration, federal air marshals were never involved. Local authorities also know nothing of this event. Continental would not discuss details.
The Osteens' spokesman denies a physical altercation, denies Victoria ever banged on the cockpit door, and says she left on her own.
"The account of the event which has come to our attention is inaccurate and overblown. The misunderstanding was minor and was resolved when Victoria voluntarily removed herself from the situation," read the statement.
The FBI says it was not voluntary. Though agents are not investigating, they will review the incident as the Osteens enjoy their Colorado vacation.
The Osteens' spokesman says they took another flight to Colorado Monday.
Nobody has been charged. As for the FBI's involvement, we're told it's standard procedure for them to review all passenger removal incidents. According to Continental, this one is a closed case.
Pastor Joel Osteen preaches to an average of 40,000 people a week at Lakewood Church services. Lakewood opened in the former home of the Rockets, Compaq Center, back in July. It took $90 million and a year and a half of renovations. Osteen's ministry is taped and aired around the world.
Yeah, but he's got a job and he doesn't hang-around.
Santa Claus is an illegal alien.)
Yeah, but he's got a job and he doesn't hang-around.
Oh no! You believe in Santa Claus?
When the King makers (wise men)came from the east They came with what? GOLD, Frankinscence and Mirh. These guys were coming to pay tribute and looking for the King of the Jews. They brought a tribute, how big? I don't know but I believe it took care of the family for a long time. My opinion.
There _was_ that bit with him and the clintons up on a stage somewhere - and he took a hit on that...
Listen Dude - the person who 'led me to Jesus' turned out to be a hypocritical psycopathic vampire from hell.
So you'll excuse me for feeling (at the moment) that all of you 'Jesus-on-my-lapel' types are just full of......SHALE....LIVE it, don't flap your gums, cause we don't wanna hear it - we wanna see it, Pal...
Well, you have been a Freeper longer than I have, which is worth something.
I am just getting some free fun on this thread - but its getting old...
as I am fond of saying to people about the Internet....
Its the ENTERTAINMENT, s****d....don't like it?
(Putting on Bill the Cat Mask): THHHPPFFHFHFTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well you know, it's really a two-edged sword, we're supposed to all encourage, admonish and keep each other "honest". Scripture is the mirror for that. My remark is tongue-in-cheek because in small churches I believe one has a better handle on things but then there's BTK!! Wow, think about that! That'll cause one to pause...
Yeah - at the makeup mirror before every appearance.
But when they went back to Persia, the Magi returned to worshipping fire as the manifestation of their great god Ahura-Mazda, reading his gospel as transcribed by his prophet, Zoroaster (Zarathrustra).......
Didn't say that, and it is good to see that he has repented. However at the time he was a crook and bilked literally millions from unsuspecting viewers
Speaking from a decade of experience, going to a Mega-Church is like going out to a country fair; you rarely see the same people twice, you shake hands and exchange pleasantries woth folks you never see again...and you wind up leaving not quite satisfied as a result (then there are the folks who smile, waive, run around and pretend they know everyone - spare me)....my own experiences with small churches have also been more positive....if I were still in San Antonio I'd probably still be attending one....
The cat in the photo looks _stuffed_.
It seems anymore the only 'family' type business to survive changing times is the family business of churching. From father to son ... dad builds a ministry and son takes it over when dad retires.
But it does appear that he might not have had the Biblically-required wife control on that flight..
About the subject of "fame", I have had the good fortune to work alongside (and advise) a panoply of top USA Generals, along with numerous Ambassadors and various muckety-mucks from the Balkans and Western Europe.....
The ones that really stood out were those who were very humble and polite, even though they were the "800-pound gorilla" in the room. Like General George Casey, who's been in the news lately...a nicer guy you'll never meet. If your back is turned and you are just listening to him holding a meeting, you would never be able to tell he was the head honcho from the way he treated everyone else - with respect.
I don't know if Mrs. Osteen tried to "pull rank" on the stewardess or not - but I know that this is what would have been called "very bad form" in another time.....
Good night!
God used a donkey to speak to Balaam to keep an angel from killing him. If the message got you saved don't worry about the messenger. How can you see it I am on the internet, I live by faith and grace everyday and I look forward to God's mercy which is new every morning. while Paul was in prison people were preaching hoping to add to his chains and some from selfish ambition but Paul was glad that the gospel was being preached.
Which begs the question - is the son really "led" to preach, or just "keeping the business in the family"?
BTK????
What's all this got to do with the CAT?
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