Stalin's mutant ape army (Yes, it's what you think)

The Sun (U.K.) ^ | December 20, 2005 | JEROME STARKEY

[SunkenCiv]

I think it's possible that Stalin was a closet fan of American movies.

Or perhaps the Great Helmsman was just way ahead of his time...

[SunkenCiv]

[HiTech RedNeck]

According to Moscow newspapers, Stalin told the scientist: "I want a new invincible human being, insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat."

I guess they hadn't heard of meth yet

[Stoat]

 

According to Moscow newspapers, Stalin told the scientist: "I want a new invincible human being, insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat."

I guess they hadn't heard of meth yet

ROTFLMAO!!!

[gridlock]

...Ivanov was arrested in 1930. He became one of millions rounded up by paranoid Stalin and died in a labour camp in 1932

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

But before we break our arms patting ourselves on the back, what do people think is going on with stem cell research and cloning? People are adding Human DNA to all sorts of things in order to create chimera stem cells for research purposes and as potential therapies.

Eventually one of these jokers is going to succeed where Ivanov failed. Then what do you do? Is the resulting critter animal or man? Is he property or a citizen? Does he have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

Eventually, we will have to answer these questions.

[Stoat]

 

...Ivanov was arrested in 1930. He became one of millions rounded up by paranoid Stalin and died in a labour camp in 1932

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Very true.

But before we break our arms patting ourselves on the back, what do people think is going on with stem cell research and cloning?

I'm not completely sure, but I do know that it's being done primarily by people who think that it's their 'right' to do pretty much anything they want to in the name of "science", and they tend to view any objections from a religious, moral or philosophical perspective as being the voice of "backward, hysterical Neanderthals" who should really just shut the heck up and get out of the way of their vision of "progress"..

People are adding Human DNA to all sorts of things in order to create chimera stem cells for research purposes and as potential therapies.

It's very troubling and I would like more openness and discussion from researchers involved with any such activity.  Opposing views should be granted a voice, not shut out of the conversation.

Eventually one of these jokers is going to succeed where Ivanov failed. Then what do you do? Is the resulting critter animal or man? Is he property or a citizen? Does he have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

My understanding is that the feeling among scientists is that they should be allowed to do and create whatever they want, and it's the job of the rest of society to legislate and make moral decisions after the fact.

Eventually, we will have to answer these questions.

Yes, and we will have to pick up the pieces (if we can) of any devastating consequences that are created.  We will be doing this while the scientists continue on their merry way, largely oblivious and uncaring as to what they have wrought.

[StoneColdTaxHater]

Uncle Joe.....What a guy!

[Stoat]

Uncle Joe.....What a guy!

Yes, a legendary Party animal (pardon the pun)

Some think that his legacy is making a comeback

Stalin's light is shining bright in Mother Russia (Uncle Joe's popularity is rising fast)

although several FReepers STRIDENTLY disagree with the Telegraph author's assessment.

Stalin's breathtaking and murderous brutality continues to inflame passions nearly a hundred years later.

I hope that people who have done GOOD in the world such as Mother Theresa, Ronald Reagan, etc. will also be passionately remembered a hundred years from now, but with fond memories and not with painful ones.

[Stoat]

Anybody seen Helen Thomas? Hmmmm...

Yes, she's hulking over at Post #19 of this thread   :-)

[KneelBeforeZod]

Stalin's mutant ape army

sounds like a good name for a punk band

[ExSoldier]

Zebras can be and are crossed with horses and asses.

When that happens the result is the birth of a Democrat. A Donkey wearing prison stripes....dumb as an ox.

[Just mythoughts]

Ah ha evolution is about reproduction simply put sex and there had to be some hot and steamy species crossing allll those many eons ago.

[Centurion2000]

The Red Army was pretty tough in WWII. I don't see why he'd want to.

Collectively it was ... individually they weren't. Kinda like the Sherman tank versus a Panzer IV. We won the tank battles because we swarmed them.

[JohnCliftn]

Dictators would be hillaryously funny if they did not have the power to cause so much grief.

• Stalin and his Lysenkoism and cross breeding apes is such a silly view of biology
• Hitler and all his screwy notions
• Mussolini's ridiculing of Roosevelt's handicap: sure sign America was a nation of weaklings. This is recorded in Churchill's History of WWII.
• Kaiser Willy II's "scientific" fiats, when he was in one of his manic depressive swings

This is why I think it is bad that more and more research in the USA is government funded. A whole agency can go nuts (like EPA), specify the results of research before the experiments ever start (like EPA), and get results (based on bad science) enacted into laws and regs. that cause a awful lot of grief. NSF is funding global warming studies and SURPRISE! they're getting global warming results the NSF likes.

Armies work together. The "Army Of One" slogan was an abomination. Consider, Ghurkas, Finest Infantry in the World according to people who ought to be competent judges, yet individually Ghurkas are little guys. Your example of the Shermans was excellent on this poiint. I think I read somewhere that the preferred way of dealing with Panzers was to drop 200 pound artillery shells on them. Maybe that was just the British army that my dimly remembered source was writing about..

[MHGinTN]

Ya mean like democrats?

[SunkenCiv]

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