[oceanview]

so only the ACLU, the Times, and liberal federal judges can provide the "oversight" needed to make something "legal" in your mind? that's basically what you are saying.

[Wolfhound777]

so only the ACLU, the Times, and liberal federal judges can provide the "oversight" needed to make something "legal" in your mind? that's basically what you are saying.

I don't remember ever referring to these entities. My only concern is for oversight by somone other than the ones that want the eavesdropping. Nothing you or anybody else say will convince me that we should "just trust" them. If there are procedures in place, they need to be followed. If the procedures aren't working, then refine them or come up with procedures that will work.