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To: jwalsh07

Don't we need to know how much has been going on that is now banned by the Bill that bore fruit, to know how much this will interfere with knowing what we need to know, before measuring the harm? My personal view is that torture should be banned unless signed off by the President himself as something critical to US security or war effort, ie the Dershowitz position. There should be an accountability trial right to the top. JMO.


47 posted on 12/15/2005 7:56:01 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Torture isn't the issue. We are signatoies to the anti torture convention. The US Military filed manual is already quite specific on torture.

One issue is the law itself which is vague in banning cruel and unusual punishment leaving it up to courts to interpret very liberally.

The other issue is the wording of the bill which gives terrorist scum 5th, 8th, 9th and 14th amendment rights.

Have you read it? It's an unlawful combatants dream come true.

48 posted on 12/15/2005 8:53:20 PM PST by jwalsh07
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