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To: bobdsmith
Is the explaination any more than just "intelligence did it"?

Actually ID isn't even that bold. They won't say (except by hoping you'll assume it, i.e. fill in the blanks yourself without committing the IDer to anything) that intelligence actually did something, because they won't address how (or when or where or by whom or by what) instances of "intelligent design" are or were instantiated.

All they'll do is infer (or pretend to infer) the existence of "intelligent design" as an end product. All else is mystery, and I believe is intentionally kept so. Once you begin to talk about how design actually happens then you've got "creationism," which is harder to "wedge" with!

Also, when you move beyond the vacuousness of ID you've got schisms among antievolutionists because they can't agree on even the most general scenarios of earth and life history (age of the earth, flood and geology, progressive vs special creation, etc, etc) and they can't settle those disputes in a normal scientific manner because there are always significant elements of dogma in play.

405 posted on 12/12/2005 6:43:24 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis; bobdsmith
Once you begin to talk about how design actually happens then you've got "creationism," which is harder to "wedge" with!

IIRC an ID book in question in the Dover case was originally a creationist tract, re-edited for ID mainly by making all the God references vague. This was the book the IDers perjured themselves over.

478 posted on 12/13/2005 5:50:28 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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