[pawdoggie]

With all the discussion devoted to this issue, it's becoming quite clear who will be leading the charge across that bridge. My fear, unfounded as it may seem, is that once we are on the other side, we will burn it as we have so many others.

So the Constitution really is a suicide pact? You remind me of the inhabitants of a city in ancient Israel who would not fight on the Sabbath. Guess when their enemies attacked and destroyed them? To borrow a Napoleon quote (that was a favorite of George S. Patton): "Do not take counsel of your fears".

[sheltonmac]

To borrow a Napoleon quote (that was a favorite of George S. Patton): "Do not take counsel of your fears".

Seems to me the pro-torture/pro-war crowd cannot help but take counsel of their fears. (Isn't that why we're in Iraq in the first place?) But those are "post-9/11" fears, so it's justified.