[cornelis]

But whether or not ID is science is the important issue

Therefore whether science is science is also the issue.

Insofar as science restricts itself to particular aspects of objects it should recognize its severe limitations as being "useful" for a human life.

[RightWhale]

whether science is science is also the issue

Somewhere along the line, perhaps about 1915, we left off the main line: which was the development of the science of science. Whether science is scientific is a valid question.