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I don't understand why this guy was even walking around with the shotgun loaded.
1 posted on 12/06/2005 5:31:59 AM PST by bikepacker67
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You just know Soros and Co. are going to use this as propoganda.


2 posted on 12/06/2005 5:36:23 AM PST by stan the beaver (We will kill the ones who eat us, and eat the ones we kill!!)
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It doesn't say what he was hunting so I can't really be sure he was doing anything unusual on that point, but it seems that the safety should have prevented the gun from firing.


3 posted on 12/06/2005 5:36:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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I don't understand why this guy was even walking around with the shotgun loaded.

You are obviously not a hunter. This is a tragic accident. The investigation will probably show that the safety was off, he was carrying his gun improperly, and/or was careless in his descent of the hill.

4 posted on 12/06/2005 5:38:02 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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This is indeed tragic. However, unless somebody can explain how the safety magically disengaged itself and pulled the trigger, it sounds like negligence to me. More like Dad had the safety off and his trigger on the finger in case a bird went up, and he slipped.


8 posted on 12/06/2005 5:52:52 AM PST by Kenton (The worst tragedy that ever befell Africa was the end of colonialism.)
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Terrible tragedy, and completely avoidable. It sounds like they weren't actively hunting at the time of the accident. If so, his shotgun should have been unloaded.

If they were actively hunting, they should have been walking side-by-side. The shotgun should have had the safety on.

On slippery terrain, going down a hill, I would have unloaded the shotgun, regardless of whether I was thinking about game or not.


14 posted on 12/06/2005 6:10:59 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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It's so typically FR-at-its-near-worst* immediately to look for ways to blame the dad. Seems to be the first thought of so many. "Who sinned -- the boy, or his dad?"

How nice for so many of you that you evidently never, ever make mistakes that could have serious consequences. If you ever do, God help you if it gets reported here.

My first thought is how unsurvivably and completely devastating it would be. I'm horrified and sick to my stomach just reading about it happening to another. An almost pathological fear that some inattention, forgetfulness, distractedness, or simple butt-stupid mistake of mine would bring harm to any family member.

God help this guy.

Dan

*FR at its worst is probably those threads that make jokes about human tragedies.


16 posted on 12/06/2005 6:16:35 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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Gun safety comments aside for the moment...

If I were the father, I don't know that I could survive such a thing...or would want to.

18 posted on 12/06/2005 6:17:48 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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OOopp....probably thought it was a cow painted orange...


29 posted on 12/06/2005 6:37:49 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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It's been my experience recently that the kids who go through hunter safety courses are better in the woods than a lot of us Old Hunters. We "think" we know it all, but what we are really guilty of is bad habits.

This case is a bad habit that turned fatal.

Hunting aint a spectator sport, its for real, we all need to remember that.


37 posted on 12/06/2005 7:07:05 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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How dare any of you say he was a bad father. People make mistakes, were only human. He is going to have to live with this for the rest of his life. They were hunting deer. He had permission to be in those woods(signed & stamped documents). They spotted a deer, he loaded the gun and he took the safety off. He couldn't get a clear shot so he started down the hill with little Ray behind him. In that split second he didn't think about the safety being off. They both slipped on the icy hill. Little Ray being so lite rolled in front of big Ray. The gun hit branches on a tree. He got shot in the chest, not the back. Little Ray did not have a bb gun with him. That is a lie. Reporters twist everything. Anytime you asked little Ray what his favorite thing to do was, "fishing and hunting with daddy." It could happen to anyone. Anyone who has something mean to say why don't you keep it to yourself....................................


51 posted on 12/07/2005 11:21:38 AM PST by fellowship22
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How absolutely awful for this father! My heart goes out to him.


52 posted on 12/07/2005 11:23:28 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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Crossing fences, navigating steep terrain always called for unloading in my book.


53 posted on 12/07/2005 11:26:52 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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Tragic accident. Prayers to the family.


54 posted on 12/07/2005 11:27:20 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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----What a terrible tragedy to have happened. I am sure the father is beside himself. How sad.


55 posted on 12/07/2005 7:03:26 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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How incredibly sad- I don't know how people can even get over something like this.


56 posted on 12/07/2005 7:08:16 PM PST by lawgirl ("You can try to wipe the memories aside, but it's you that you erase..." Honestly- Billy Corgan)
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