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To: Tribune7

>>Did she get off the bus?

It does not matter. They own the land. They set up a perimiter and check everyone entering the land. Imagine a military base with several buildings, with a checkpoint at the entrance. Once she is in they would not know if she got off the bus or not. It makes more sense to have a perimiter. Checking ID for half the bus, then trying to run after the bus and watch who gets off, and try to remeber if they were the ones who showed ID or not, would be silly.

By the way, according to another tread, she purposefully took this bus knowing the situation when she could have taken other busses to her destination that did not enter the Federal facility area.


48 posted on 12/05/2005 2:02:41 PM PST by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
They own the land.

They? I guessed someone has reached the end of the road to serfdom.

Imagine a military base with several buildings, with a checkpoint at the entrance.

Imagine this is not a military base but a federal office building.

By the way, according to another tread, she purposefully took this bus knowing the situation when she could have taken other busses to her destination

Apparently not:

It started when Mrs. Davis began commuting to her new job in Lakewood aboard an RTD bus that made a regular stop at the Denver Federal Center. Each time, federal police boarded the bus and asked passengers for ID.
Mrs. Davis produced her driver's license once, but it rankled her. The next few times, she begged off, saying she had left her ID at home. Finally, an officer told Mrs. Davis that she would need to show proof of her identity the following Monday.

And here's something else to consider

"I spent the weekend trying to decide if the Constitution had changed since I was in eighth grade, and I decided it hadn't," said Mrs. Davis, who has a son serving in the Army in Iraq.

Go Mrs. Davis. You got more guts than most. The following Monday, after the officers boarded the bus, one of them "asked me if I had my ID with me, and I said, 'Yes,' " she recalled. "Then he asked me if he could see it and I said, 'No.' "

64 posted on 12/05/2005 2:19:02 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
It does not matter. They own the land.

So what? In some States, the Federal government controls >90% of the land such that it is all but impossible to not traverse federally controlled land as a matter of going about one's life. By your rationalization, the citizens of those States should be forced to live in a virtual prison because the Federal government took their money by force and used it to acquired the land around them (also by force). Should we be required to put up with every jackass Gestapo tactic some Federal bureaucrat dreams up every time we leave the house because the Federal government forced your neighbor to sell his property to them? Only a dimwit with an authoritarian streak would say "yes", yet this already happens in many places.

If the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendment no longer apply when you cross Federal land that can be created by force via eminent domain and paid for by taking money from you by force, it is just a matter of time before you live in a police state in fact where leaving your house is only possible with the express permission of the government for purposes they proscribe.

125 posted on 12/05/2005 4:18:34 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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