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Get Out Now...What’s taking so long?
The Common Conservative ^ | 11-30-05 | by Tom Adkins

Posted on 12/05/2005 11:05:01 AM PST by Bob J

I’ve had a change of heart. After backing American efforts to defend our nation while bringing the sweet taste of liberty around the world, I must admit: we failed. Once again, we sent sons and daughters into harm's way, often without proper training, and asked them to perform impossible missions. I don’t even know the body count, although it’s high. And the dollar cost? Sheesh. I’ve lost track.

Have we achieved victory? I’m having serious doubts. After the brave sacrifices of our armed forces, I have yet to see the native people embrace democracy. Where are the greetings of flowers and open arms? Where is the freedom they were promised? Where is the gratitude? Where are the results?

Frankly, I question the President’s decisions, especially the intelligence failures, questionable tactics, and the immense military blunders. And after years of waiting, have you seen an exit strategy? I haven’t.

I used to think we should stay the course to victory. But now, I think it’s time to pull out. All of our troops. Send ‘em home.

That’s right. It is time for America to leave Germany.

And Belgium. And Spain. And France, the hygienically-challenged nation of smarm, leading the world only in gall, rudeness and cynicism. And while we’re at it, let’s pull out of Japan, Italy and anywhere else the American military is unappreciated.

Besides, why are American forces in these nations? Didn’t we win? Are we defending French cheese? German beer? Belgian chocolate? And who wants a Hyundai, anyway? These nations won’t even defend their own national treasures. Why should we?

But let’s reminisce about Germany. We gave over a half-million American lives and casualties to defeat Hitler, a socialist dictator (Nazi was the abbreviation for “National Socialist,” in case your public school teachers never told you) who left 50 million dead. In fact, at the end of World War II, underground Nazi die-hards led a bloody ten-year insurgency. American death toll: over a thousand.

Undaunted, Americans gave billions to rebuild German cities, never repaid. When the Soviets sealed off their cities, we flew in planeloads of anything they needed. Now, in the middle of World War IV (World War III, a.k.a. the Cold War, was won by Ronald Reagan of course, despite angry German protests), Americans need their support. Instead, they formed the aptly named “Axis of Weasels,” nations who, when faced with the greatest historic threat to freedom in a true world war, meekly capitulated. In fact, they accepted Hussein’s outright bribery. Meanwhile, German elections are usually won by whoever offers the most outrageous anti-American vitriol.

Thanks a lot, losers.

So I say we get out of Germany. Now.

Then, should we pull out of Iraq? Hell no. We should stay there and fight. Why? Because Iraqis have the perfect attitude about freedom. They want us to help hunt down the vermin who are murdering innocent civilians in a disgusting attempt to bring about a chaotic mix of dictator thuggery and bloodthirsty Islamic fundamentalism. Once they build forces and can deal with the problem themselves, they want us to leave. Fine. At least they’ll actually fight for their freedom, unlike the Germans. And that’s how it should be.

Winston Churchill once noted that appeasement meant hoping the alligator will eat you last. Thus, the future of Europe is laughably obvious. This collection of ungrateful snots squandered their freedom, heaped upon the shoals of socialism. In fact, they reverted to the exact same selfish behavior that got them into endless squabbles over the last century. Worse, they invited millions of Arabs into their miserable welfare states to perform menial tasks. Greeted with classic Euro-nationalist racism, contempt, empty promises and a 40% unemployment rate, Arab ghettos are restless. Last time I looked, European cities feature a new street light: The Flaming Citroen.

So let the world’s whiners have their way. Grab your ankles! Feed the alligators! I say we put together a timetable. Six months. A year. Whatever. After all, we never had a “exit strategy” for Germany. Or Japan, Or Korea. So here it is: See ya later!

And you know, we could probably balance the budget with the money we save.

I wonder when the Bat-phone will ring. “Herr President, in our time of need, we have a favor to ask. Could you send some Americans to die for us?” This time, let the phone ring. We’re too busy helping nations that actually give a damn about themselves.


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To: TheForceOfOne

Hence Don Rumsfeld's plan of drawing down some Military Bases in Europe 'n elswehre in places with no(apparent) Al-Qaeda or IslamTerror cells.


21 posted on 12/05/2005 11:24:25 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: RebelBanker

Might want to read this:
http://hnn.us/articles/1655.html

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/Ricehoaxedstoryexposed17jan04.shtml

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/germany-iran.htm


22 posted on 12/05/2005 11:25:11 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: RexBeach
I think we should tell Iraq, O.K, the next time any of our troops are killed by the insurgents, we will surround the town closest to the incident, blockade it off, and turn it into glass. I mean a small battle field Hydrogen Bomb will flatten everything for a few miles. I mean kids cats, old ladies and everything else in that town, flatten it and cover it over with dirt.
That is the only thing the people in this part of the world understand. Make it so damn painful for them, they are afraid to harm our troops.

I remember Hitler, had the policy, if the locals killed one of the Hitlers troops, 25 locals, were taken out and shot. Not tomorrow, but today, now, and it didn't take long for the people to understand, don't kill our troops.

I have been through service in Korea, and Police action, but Harry never sent us our badges, Viet Nam, we could not tell the friends from the enemies, now we are back in the same quagmire, no idea of where we are going or how we are going to get there. Just stumbling around, if we are going to send out young people into these cesspools to bring about law and order, then let's bring law and order
23 posted on 12/05/2005 11:25:36 AM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: Bob J

Love it!


24 posted on 12/05/2005 11:25:41 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: bnelson44

Google is your friend:
http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/tv_guide/full_details/World_history/programme_2412.php


25 posted on 12/05/2005 11:26:55 AM PST by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: Bob J

Ping! TA!!!!


26 posted on 12/05/2005 11:27:58 AM PST by countrydummy
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To: Bob J

Also, you'll never hear the Rats talking about getting our troops out of Kosovo.


27 posted on 12/05/2005 11:28:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Bob J

And Bosnia and Kosovo, too.


28 posted on 12/05/2005 11:28:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: ExcursionGuy84
The Werewolves were more active in the eastern Soviet areas than the Western areas, but there were attacks on US servicemen for awhile.

Most Germans were just glad that they got rid of the funny mustache man.
29 posted on 12/05/2005 11:29:10 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RebelBanker

Thanks, tried google, didn't get much. In fact, there isn't much at the link you provided either.

My mind is still open to the possibility of such a group, but it is very strange that we don't see it mentioned in the histories of the time (and WWII is one of the most overly written about eras of our time).


30 posted on 12/05/2005 11:30:23 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: BooBoo1000

Thanks for your thoughts, BooBoo.

Thanks for your service, too!

Please keep your chin up. Good things are happening over there....even if we don't read about'em.


31 posted on 12/05/2005 11:30:41 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: F14 Pilot; Valin

"why are American forces in these nations? Didn’t we win? Are we defending French cheese? German beer? Belgian chocolate? " " These nations won’t even defend their own national treasures. Why should we? "

PING


32 posted on 12/05/2005 11:37:03 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Brilliant
Just remember why we are there to begin with. Once you pull your troops out, you can't bring them back unless you want to re-do D-Day.

Good point. I'm with you. Cut way back, but hang on to most of the bases and just mothball them. Then we can go back without special permission, if need be.

Besides, we need a safe, comfortable base with support and hospital facilities that is closer than CONUS to most of the action. So if we pull way down in Germany, we will probably need to open new facilities in Poland, Rumania, or some place further to the East or South. Preferably a country that is unlikely to take our money and then kick us out or put restrictions on our movements.

33 posted on 12/05/2005 11:37:14 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bnelson44

google "werwolf" or werewolf. It gives you some interesting articles. Having lived there after the war (Born in Germany 1942), I can vouch for the fact that it did exist. The effectiveness ranges from 100 dead to 1000 killed. Documentation was hard to find since it involved decapitation, (stringing wire across the road) to arson, etc.
Anyway, very interesting.


34 posted on 12/05/2005 11:42:49 AM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: talleyman

There is just one thing to consider before we come home from any of these places. Now that nuclear weapons are the choice for destruction by any terrorist group, how do we protect America? For instance, Iran is working around the clock to develop a deliverable nuclear device. They already have a good delivery system available and only need to reduce the size of a warhead for it. What happens when the Iranians call the world's bluff. If you consider this a real threat, what will happen in Europe if we come home and leave these folks to their own devices? Think about it for awhile, and remember there will be no Plan B for us.


35 posted on 12/05/2005 11:42:50 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub.)
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To: nuconvert

The only incorrect atatement in the article is that we can't remove troops from France, since there aren't any left.


36 posted on 12/05/2005 11:45:58 AM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: RexBeach

My thoughts exactly.

Its actually easy for us to regain the appreciation of the free world. All we have to do is pull out.

Besides the protection we provide, our presence amounts to huge transfer payments to the all those various local economies.

No sense over staying our welcome!


37 posted on 12/05/2005 11:47:26 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: Pessimist

Yep, we've been in those spots for two generations now, and if they are re-dployed stateside or somewhere else, the troops, bless'em, will be missed.

I think the country would support it.


38 posted on 12/05/2005 11:50:02 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Bob J

Germany just elected a pro-US chancellor, so strange timing for the article. :)


39 posted on 12/05/2005 11:56:46 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Bob J; Old Sarge

DANG this is a good read!! I love it!!!!


40 posted on 12/05/2005 12:09:38 PM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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