[Stultis]

It's a turf war, pure and simple. Fear. They fear they'll lose the freedom to openly ridicule their own students, fear a loss of prestige, loss of postion--perhaps even loss of money, lest a grant find its way into the ID crowd.

So, when Hare Krishna's try to get "transcendental meditation" into the public school curricula, we shouldn't fight a "turf war" against them?

Likewise we shouldn't fight a "turf war" against radical environmentalists who substitute scientific ecology with ideological environmentalism?

Indeed whenever curricula is reworked by ethnic, ideological or other "affinity" groups, we should simply stand aside?

Or is it only FOR YOUR AFFINITY GROUP that we should stand down? (Thought so.)

[Mamzelle]

If evolution had been taught as an indespensible model (which it is)--the IDers would never have had the momentum to cause as much anguish as they clearly have. It was the folly of teaching it as dogma which opened the door that the evos are now so frantic to shut. And, those who don't know much about the debate, keep wondering, "Why not give it a hearing? What are you so terrified of?" Because--it sure looks like terror, all this over-the-top behavior.

When teachers feel free to jeer at a student's religious beliefs...well, you're going to have trouble in your playground. Those students have organized to challenge and hector, and the teachers themselves are not behaving in a very attractive manner.

[Right Wing Professor]

It is clear the fundamentalists want to subject every aspect of human interaction to their particular cultist viewpoint. Science must be straight-armed and shoehorned into agreement with Genesis. Universities must be forbidden from critically examining fundamentalism, and must teach the fundamentalist world-view. Businesses must likewise adopt the symbols of fundamentalism; government must establish the Christian religion; schools must incorporate religious worship.

We've seen totalitarianism several times this century. It's not hard to recognize here.