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Pilot Reports 'Missile' Fired at Jetliner Near LAX (11/28/05) (Media finally reports)
NewsRadio 1060 Philadelphia ^ | December 2, 2005

Posted on 12/02/2005 1:28:17 PM PST by Babu

FBI agents and Homeland Security officials spent the weekend investigating the report of a possible missile fired at an American Airlines plane taking off from Los Angeles International Airport.

Sources tell ABC News the pilot of American Airlines Flight 621, en route to Chicago, radioed air traffic controllers after takeoff from LAX. He told them a missile had been fired at the aircraft and missed.

The plane was over water when the pilot said he saw a smoke trail pass by the cockpit.

FBI agents believe it was a flare or a bottle rocket, but say they may never know if that's what it actually was.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aa; airlinesecurity; airtravel; bottlerocket; flight621; lax; missile
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To: Jigsaw John

My estimate is based on many flights out of LAX, and could have checked last August, had my GPS running (against rules) and watched the altitude and airspeed. We were well over 1,000 feet at the hills I mentioned, how much over I don't remember. At the 10,000 foot point where they say OK to turn stuff on, my WAG would be we were 2-3 mi. off the beach. This was a max load 757 with fuel for the run to Hawaii, full passenger load. A less loaded plane would get up there that much quicker. Air traffic control just tells them to use a fixed heading and climb to an altitude. Pilot's discretion how fast he gets up there, but these newer airliners seem to like a steep climb.

You might have to wait until my next flight for verification.... ;-)


61 posted on 12/02/2005 3:55:06 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Babu

bump for later reading


62 posted on 12/02/2005 4:00:40 PM PST by Roberts
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To: jcs1744
Secondly, when a flight is taking off to the west from LAX (as they nearly do), they are at about three thousand when climbing over Dockweiler Beach.

Not disputing you, but thought you be interested in seeing this. A bird strike on a 747 on the #3. The report said it was only about 500 feet, and the exhaust nozzle fell onto the beach along with other debris.

On August 27, 2000, a KLM Boeing 747 departed from the Los Angeles International airport with 449 on board. The departure path passes over Dockweiler State Beach located at the end of runway 25 R. Soon after take-off, 500 ft AGL, two distinct loud bang were heard and fire was observed coming out of the #3 engine. Witnesses reported seeing parts of the engine falling off. Picture 2 shows the outer cylinder of the engine exhaust nozzle landed on the beach about 35 ft from people. The flight crew declared an emergency, dumped 166,000 lbs of fuel and returned safely to the airport. (See Strike Report Details below.)

63 posted on 12/02/2005 4:01:03 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: doorgunner69

See 63. It's an interesting read.


64 posted on 12/02/2005 4:02:11 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: tertiary01; Borax Queen

ping


65 posted on 12/02/2005 4:02:18 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: jcs1744; GOP_1900AD

jcs...while I still don't know what to make of this whole thing....AA621 DOES fly out of LA to ORD...

I looked it up on AA's site last night.


66 posted on 12/02/2005 4:07:59 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (HiJinx! How old ARE you?)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Hey, someone is on it!


67 posted on 12/02/2005 4:08:43 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: jcs1744

Oh! And welcome to FR! I didn't even notice that this was your first post.

Hope you enjoy it here! :)


68 posted on 12/02/2005 4:08:46 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (HiJinx! How old ARE you?)
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To: Jigsaw John

:)

Never mess with a Gramma.


69 posted on 12/02/2005 4:10:18 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (HiJinx! How old ARE you?)
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To: Brad's Gramma

:)


70 posted on 12/02/2005 4:11:59 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: Brad's Gramma

So does that imply that was a military flight?


71 posted on 12/02/2005 4:13:47 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: Jigsaw John

Stand up straight and wipe that grin off your face, young man!

:)


72 posted on 12/02/2005 4:14:04 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (HiJinx! How old ARE you?)
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To: Jigsaw John

No surprise really, the old 747 climbs much more leisurely than the 757 and newer. Interesting thread.........


73 posted on 12/02/2005 4:15:36 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Jigsaw John

No.....NOT a military flight. (Did I mess up...again?) :)


74 posted on 12/02/2005 4:16:52 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (HiJinx! How old ARE you?)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Scratch my last. I saw ORD and my first thought was military. O'Hare.


75 posted on 12/02/2005 4:17:11 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: doorgunner69
I'd wager they can reach 5-6k feet not far from the beach, possibly less than 0.5 miles out.

Geometry is not my strong point, but that would be a hell of a steep climb angle, wouldn't it?

76 posted on 12/02/2005 4:27:19 PM PST by Flyer (The Internet, my dog and you ~ http://dahtcom.com/masoncam/)
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To: Babu

***FBI agents believe it was a flare or a bottle rocket, but say they may never know if that's what it actually was.***
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Reminds me of the BS after Flight 800 went down.
I don't believe what they are putting out there.


77 posted on 12/02/2005 4:29:23 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: Brad's Gramma

I just looked it up also:



http://www.aa.com/apps/travelInformation/SearchGateTimesandStatusResults.jhtml?currentCalForm=dep&currentCodeForm=&origin=&_D%3Aorigin=+&destination=&_D%3Adestination=+&flightNumber=621&_D%3AflightNumber=+&date=Today&_D%3Adate=+&time=1&_D%3Atime=+&carrier=AA&_D%3Acarrier=+&arrival=false&_D%3Aarrival=+&_D%3Aarrival=+&%2Faa%2Ftravelinfo%2FViewFlightInfoFormHandler.submit.x=60&%2Faa%2Ftravelinfo%2FViewFlightInfoFormHandler.submit.y=6&_D%3A%2Faa%2Ftravelinfo%2FViewFlightInfoFormHandler.submit=+&_DARGS=%2Fapps%2Fmodules%2FgatesTimesStatusExt2.jhtml


Looks to be MSP-DWF-SNA (Minneapolis-Dallas-Orange County)

SNA is roughly 40 miles from LAX.


78 posted on 12/02/2005 4:31:01 PM PST by Drago
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To: Drago

Make that "DFW" in my last post (Dyslexia!)


79 posted on 12/02/2005 4:32:21 PM PST by Drago
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To: Babu

The sickest stupidest thing about all of this is that it took a bunch of amateurs (us) to actually prod people who are supposed to be professionals (news media) and keep the story alive before they would actually publish news.

We should call news something else, but it isn't the news media anymore.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that FR is where I get my news, period.


80 posted on 12/02/2005 4:33:34 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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