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To: ml1954
It's a fact that the Dover School board lost. It's also a fact that ID/Creationism wasn't an issue in the 2004 election. But it's becoming one now. The Chicago Tribune has had front page stories at least three times in the past month on this. In addition, the recent Sunday edition featured an entire front page editorial section on this issue with three separate articles. These are facts.

The facts are as follows:

1. ID/creationism has never appeared on any issues list by any polling outfit that I know of.

2. Recent polling destroys your hypothesis because self identified creationists are a healthy majority in this country whereby conservatives are not.

3. Extrapolating local school board results to national and regional elections is bad political science, charlatansville in fact.

4. Kansas is a case in point that destroys that extrapolation. When they threw out their BOE folks the state remained solidly conservative in congressional and state elections.

5. Evolution/ID plays well as a small issue in areas of the country long lost to conservatives/republicans such as the Northeast.

6. In red states creationism/God wins votes, it doesn't lose votes.

7. Your hypothesis is based on wishful thinking, not any objective review of the facts.

Now those are the facts and those facts are the enemy of any hypothesis claiming a belief that God created the universe is a loser for conservatives. Now and for the foreseeable future.

290 posted on 12/02/2005 12:05:27 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Now those are the facts and those facts are the enemy of any hypothesis claiming a belief that God created the universe is a loser for conservatives. Now and for the foreseeable future.

I never made any hypothesis that 'claiming a belief that God created the universe is a loser for conservatives.' And it's dishonest for you to imply I did.

Some of your 'facts' are not facts either.

When I'm having a discussion with someone and they start saying I said something I didn't, and present their own hypothesis and opinions as 'facts', I conclude the discussion is not in good faith and that my further participation is a waste of time.

295 posted on 12/02/2005 1:01:28 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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