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U.S. Immigration Policy on the Table at the WTO
International Relations Center ^ | November 30, 2005 | Sarah Anderson

Posted on 12/01/2005 7:56:14 AM PST by jackbenimble

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This is a fairly balanced discussion. I hate that we have the Bush Administration representing us in these talks because we pretty much know all about their open borders thinking. I hope Congress holds the line. I can't imagine that it would be a good thing to turn our immigration policy over to the WTO. This statement pretty much sums it up for me:

Do we really want something as sensitive as migration decided in backroom deals, perhaps in return for lower tariffs on alfalfa?

1 posted on 12/01/2005 7:56:17 AM PST by jackbenimble
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To: jackbenimble

"They" are negotiating away our sovereignty.


2 posted on 12/01/2005 8:08:22 AM PST by sheana
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To: gubamyster

A ping, please: immigration laws tied to trade policies.


3 posted on 12/01/2005 8:15:23 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: jackbenimble

LMAO, GATT, NAFTA, the WTO weren't going to impact our nation at all. Nooooo, these were great organizations, just the thing we needed.


4 posted on 12/01/2005 8:15:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Is this article one you'd be interested in reading?


5 posted on 12/01/2005 8:25:18 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


6 posted on 12/01/2005 8:51:51 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: sheana

""They" are negotiating away our sovereignty."


But - But - how dare you speak against Bush, we'll end up with Hillary as President! ...and get the same crap we're getting now. What would be the difference in this sphere?


7 posted on 12/01/2005 9:02:17 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: DumpsterDiver
immigration laws tied to trade policies.

The Bush Administration is waging trade and economic warfare against the American Middle class.
And our military has become a global mercenary force, serving merely to protect transnational corporate interests.

"The borders can't be protected. We can't protect our own border!"

~ Secretary of Defense Donald M. Rumsfeld, November 29, 2005


8 posted on 12/01/2005 9:08:17 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


9 posted on 12/01/2005 9:08:53 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: jackbenimble

I don't have any problem with importing more doctors from overseas.


10 posted on 12/01/2005 9:15:04 AM PST by Brilliant
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I don't have any problem with importing more doctors from overseas.

I do. Doctors are needed in other countries, they can stay there and address their own public health issues.

Plus, i would like to actually go to the doctors office nad be able to understand what the doctor says and be able to pronounce their name.
11 posted on 12/01/2005 9:20:27 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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I don't have any problem with importing more doctors from overseas.

That is not really the point of the article is it?

Do you think we should turn over our immigration policy to the WTO or any other non-elected and non-responsive international body? You may want more doctors but they may tell us that we have to take an unlimited number of accountants or just an unlimited number of people of any sort and American citizens get no say in the matter. In my opinion, we should leave control over our immigration policy right where the Constitution puts it: with Congress.

12 posted on 12/01/2005 9:21:46 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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Gates and the other executives who are constantly pushing for expanded immigration are elitists who regard themselves as "citizens of the world" first, not Americans. They don't give a damn that their wholesale importation of foreign technical workers---to say nothing of offshoring work whenever they can---has seriously compromised our national security and decimated the American middle class. The biggest reason few Americans want to study science and engineering today is because they see these jobs are being given to foreigners at sub-par wages. You can make better money in a whole host of jobs, even in teaching and skilled trades, than you can in engineering or systems development these days.


13 posted on 12/01/2005 9:21:50 AM PST by uscit
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You can make better money in a whole host of jobs, even in teaching and skilled trades, than you can in engineering or systems development these days.

I agree. But the elites won't be content with just wrecking the technical professions for long. They are soon going to figure out how to import unlimited numbers of workers into every job category. Have you seen anything in President Bush's guest worker proposal that limit the guests to just unskilled labor?

14 posted on 12/01/2005 9:27:43 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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Make a trade with them. We'll let in their doctors and highly paid professionals. They drop all their other demands.


15 posted on 12/01/2005 9:31:15 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: BlueStateDepression

I don't have any problem with the idea of producing more American, English-speaking doctors, but we're not doing that. I'd rather have a doctor who is hard to understand than none at all.


16 posted on 12/01/2005 9:32:39 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Well if you think bringing less people from overseas to be doctors equals us having no doctors maybe you indeed need an appointment. That is an attitude that says Americans CAN'T do it. Sorry I do not subscribe to that notion.

WTO should encompass trade policy not Immigration policy, where they intersect... our Congress has to make the calls where this nation is concerened and should retain that duty afforded them by our constitution.

Go on and let the WTO,or any of its associates, make the claim that the USA cannot decide its own immigration policy. They are in effect saying that no borders exist anywhere and that noone has any right to make any policy for immigration or anything else for that matter. If they actually go there, then they will lose any credability the do have.

The UN tried to usurp that authority before and they failed miserably claiming it was 'mean' to deport illegals. They looked like fools in doing so and the WTO would look just the same.


17 posted on 12/01/2005 10:06:00 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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We have a doctor shortage. Even the AMA agrees with that, and they are the ones who are primarily responsible for causing it.


18 posted on 12/01/2005 10:15:15 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

The entire world has a doctor shortage. I would bet you find the AMA agrees with that also.

We have the best and most effective medical system in the world especially when you consider the colume of people cared for.

What country do you suggest we import doctors from that has an excess and also has a better medical system than the USA?


19 posted on 12/01/2005 10:20:44 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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Who cares whether they don't have an excess? We're not responsible for their problems. I'm in favor of anything that increases the supply of health care here, except subsidies.


20 posted on 12/01/2005 10:23:48 AM PST by Brilliant
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