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TRY AGAIN, MR. PRESIDENT -- THOSE WERE EMPTY WORDS [The Presidnet's Amnesty Program]
Neal Boortz ^ | Nov. 29, 2005 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/29/2005 5:25:04 AM PST by conservativecorner

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To: beezdotcom
Are you saying those are the ONLY guys - or even a MAJORITY?

From the mexicns I've met that I have suspected as being illegal, they're close to 100% of the hardworkers. That doesn't say statisticallly anything about the whole population, but it makes sense to me that it's representative.

Of the liberals I've met, close to 100% are America hating bigots. That doesn't say statisticallly anything about the whole population of liberals either, but it makes sense to me that it's representative.

181 posted on 11/29/2005 7:27:44 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Good for you Texans. I only recognize one of your six flags as being mine.


182 posted on 11/29/2005 7:28:00 AM PST by Sterco
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To: Redleg Duke

I see all the Bushbots are here for... what exactly do you do around here?


183 posted on 11/29/2005 7:30:18 AM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: sam_paine
Of the liberals I've met, close to 100% are America hating bigots.

You were making sense until you inserted this hyperbole. I know FOR A FACT the number isn't any larger than 67%.
184 posted on 11/29/2005 7:30:34 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Sterco
I only recognize one of your six flags as being mine.

That flag is "ours," inclusive. Not just "yours."

185 posted on 11/29/2005 7:30:46 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: beezdotcom

Achk! 67% is "close to" 100% in any hyperbolic FR immigration thread!


186 posted on 11/29/2005 7:32:02 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

No argument here...


187 posted on 11/29/2005 7:32:43 AM PST by Sterco
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To: Mo1

"Betcha I'm part of the majority on this forum who are tried of being flamed when we try to discuss this issue and to find a solution"

Well, when you take the side of the illegal immigrants you should expect to be flamed. Look at the poll.


188 posted on 11/29/2005 7:34:19 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: All
All I can say on illegal immigration, is the following: Just like in New Orleans, what did they do before pumping the water out?... That's right! They closed the leaves (real smart, huh?). Illegal Immigration is not different, so whatever the president has in mind, the first condition for fixing the problem is closing, securing the border!!! - building a wall if they must to - but no one should be able to enter the country but through legal channels. The idea that it's just "too difficult" to secure the border is nothing but bunk!.... if the minuteman, were able to make a difference, the Federal Government with all its technological might, should be able to do it. Once the Mexicans, and this is what we are talking about really, see the US means business.... you will see a decrease in people trying to cross the border.

Once the border is secured, or at least on paper, ready to be implemented, then can look at we have here in the country.... and that is anyone's guess. Many, many things can be done... This will be subject that will be discussed by everyone, and one that yes, it has POLITICAL implications, and we all know what happens when politics are involved!... and the Republicans better play this card very carefully. Because you can be sure the Rats, will play this one to their advantage. But again.... this is just wide open for discussion. And another thing we want to remind everyone, I am a Hispanic, a conservative Hispanic and US citizen. Don't be so quick to blame poor people that for the most part want to do jobs Americans don't want to do. True, some of them want even better than that, construction?.... landscaping... ? just remember that if the government wanted to do something about it, really, they would put the screws on the businesses who hire them! - This would take care of it. Instead, just like the president for the past 5 years, they pussyfoot around and basically look the other way and do nothing. And as we all know, politicians can be bought!... not it's not surprised to me that nothing has really happened since 9/11, when the borders should have been secured if nothng else for fear of an attack

189 posted on 11/29/2005 7:34:25 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget we are all still friends despite our differences :))
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To: Sterco

If they are hiring significant numbers of illegal immigrants it should be easy to prove.

However, criminal investigation and law enforcement isn't the responsibiliy of those companies, it's the responsibility of the government.

The companies have a duty to make a reasonable attemt to determine someone's employability. However, if they have a driverslicens and SSN, then it's the government that is failing in their duty, not the employer. Investigating employess beyond a reasonable check is an invasion of privacy and likely violates employment laws.

Employers need to be held accountable if they are purposfully hiring illegal immigrants, but it's the government that in most cases has the information and authority to investigate illegal employees. The IRS is especially well equipped since they receive the payments to these bogus SSNs, yet they don't investigate.


190 posted on 11/29/2005 7:36:36 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: alloysteel
What is their opinion on the illegal swarm that comes boiling like locusts, day after day, across a largely undefended border?

You off your meds? I live 30 miles from the border and I have yet to see a swarm of anything. Those of mexican heritage in this area are far easier to live around than the urban areas of other cities I have lived in. They are decent people who care for their families and work hard.

If you want to stop illegal immigration, just enforce the existing laws against hiring illegals. Support the death penalty for employers if you wish. Cut off the California public assistance thru the Emergency Room and other programs. That and only that will stop the majority.

191 posted on 11/29/2005 7:37:33 AM PST by AmusedBystander
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To: nicmarlo

If I had seen this coming I would have butchered my own damn chickens.


192 posted on 11/29/2005 7:37:45 AM PST by Sterco
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To: Ace of Spades
I see all the Bushbots are here for... what exactly do you do around here?

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! good question!

193 posted on 11/29/2005 7:38:37 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: conservativecorner

No president is ever going to drive through a neighborhood with an army of buses rounding up exisiting illegals. I know it sounds great but the political press around the world would be devastating. THAT is the reality regardless of the legality.

So what do you do with those here already?

1. fine them
2. require them to be fluent in english and atleast a high school equiv. exam within 5 years.
3. tax any money they send out of the country, (to pay for the taxes they didnt pay while here)
4. Forbid them from sponsoring anyone for citizenship for 7 years
5. If they are arrested for a felony or currently have a felony conviction they are deported.
6. If they are arrested in the company of illegal aliens they are deported.


194 posted on 11/29/2005 7:39:08 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: ARCADIA

I think it's really the corporate donors and the Latino vote is just an excuse. I can't imagine that the majority of Latinos, who immigrated legally, love all the illegals too.


195 posted on 11/29/2005 7:41:44 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Walkingfeather

Here is what Indonesia did:

The Indonesian government has vowed to work hard to bring home around 400,000 illegal workers remaining in Malaysia, with Malaysia deciding to extend the amnesty for the third time.

Minister of Manpower and Transmigration Fahmi Idris said on Wednesday the government would continue disseminating information on the amnesty's extension and the simplified and free documentation available in order to persuade illegal immigrants to return home.

"Besides disseminating free documentation, the government will deploy transportation facilities to prevent them from being stranded at Malaysia's exit points. The Malaysian government has also helped disseminate information on the amnesty program through employers and requested that they pay their workers' salaries.

"If workers fail to respond to this positively, then the (Indonesian) government has no more ideas on how to prevent the Malaysian authorities from enforcing their harsh immigration laws," Fahmi told The Jakarta Post in Jakarta.

"Coordinating Minister for People's Welfare Alwi Shihab has prepared transportation facilities such as ships and C-130 Hercules cargo aircraft to transport the illegal migrants," Arke said.

Meanwhile, chief of the immigration office in Belawan port, Syamsul Bahri, called on the government to deploy more ships to Malaysia since thousands of illegal immigrants have been stranded at several Malaysian ports due to lack of transport facilities to Indonesia.




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196 posted on 11/29/2005 7:41:54 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Borax Queen; Ace of Spades
I see all the Bushbots are here for... what exactly do you do around here? haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! good question!

Why, they're just cheerleading for the President on certain critical issues most American's won't.....not to be confused with just wanting jobs most Americans won't do.

197 posted on 11/29/2005 7:42:48 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: hedgetrimmer

Hi Hedge, exactly right, good post.


198 posted on 11/29/2005 7:42:49 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: ZULU
Unless Bush stops behaving like a liberal Democrat on this subject, he is going to re-create for the 2008 Republican Candidate for President and the Republican candidates for Congress in 2006 the same kind of glaring, obvious trap the leftist Dems sprang on his stupid father when they tricked him into raising taxes, then crucified him later for doing it. And Ted Kennedy and the other libs will be out there leading the pack.

If Bush gets ANYTHING other than mass deportation orders shoved through that is exactly what will happen. The illegal aliens flood the border every time the President proclaims "Guest Worker Plan." The Dems will vote in any trash that will let the illegals stay and then it will be "Bush's fault" that it is flawed.

In the meantime the radical mexicans are parading around yelling about how they want "White Europeans" out of the U.S. and the entire Continent "belongs" to them. This is laying the groundwork for exactly what occurred in France with their non-assimilating "immigrants" to occur right here. Anyone that can't see this unfolding is a bit of a dim bulb.

199 posted on 11/29/2005 7:42:54 AM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: ElPatriota
Not leaves = LEVEES!

you can't trust spell chekers anymore LOL.

200 posted on 11/29/2005 7:43:39 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget we are all still friends despite our differences :))
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