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Boston Archbishop to Homosexuals: "Because we love you, we cannot accept your behavior."
LifeSiteNews ^ | 28 November 2005 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 11/28/2005 5:39:50 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

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To: Ma3lst0rm

"...It is not talking about it that leaves children open to being deceived by what they see on TV and in society."

Great point. I loved my Mom and Dad, but the silence of their generation - and now mine - has left it too easy for radical redefinition of normal sexual behavior to take over.

-- Joe


41 posted on 11/28/2005 6:59:47 PM PST by Joe Republc
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To: Frenetic
**Just telling someone to ignore all that and follow blindly isn't teaching them anything.

To ignore all what?

42 posted on 11/28/2005 7:00:03 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: Graybeard58
"Archbishop Sean O'Malley is addressing the moral implications of homosexuality. Why would he bring up health issues when that isn't the subject?"

You are right. The Archbishop is addressing a current controversy in Boston involving a dinner hosted by Catholic Charities honoring the Mayor, Tom Menino. The Archbishop has announced his intention to boycott because of Menino's support for gay marriage.
43 posted on 11/28/2005 7:04:38 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: Frenetic

Sin is in line with natural law. Every sin has conquences of suffering that can be shown scientifically. Homosexual sex is a sin - it goes against natural law - and it's consequences are easy to depict. Just saying "it's a sin" works for true and strong believers and works for those who read; but it does not work for those who are weak in faith and who do not read.


44 posted on 11/28/2005 7:07:53 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: fr_freak
For a Catholic, this is not nearly enough for spiritual salvation, which is the ultimate goal of every (true) Christian.

Appreciation from this Baptist for your entire #39.

Well said.

45 posted on 11/28/2005 7:09:04 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Because we love you, we cannot accept your behavior."

PRECISELY!

46 posted on 11/28/2005 7:09:56 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: Ma3lst0rm
That's pretty much how I would get through it. At least up until jr high. As for the younger ones, well, ahem.. one very worldly ten year old can tell the class anything they want to know.
47 posted on 11/28/2005 7:11:43 PM PST by labette (Opinions and Christian criticisms welcomed.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

That sure has alot of teeth, right Jeeves????


48 posted on 11/28/2005 7:15:37 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Frenetic
The answer can be deduced through logic and reason and proven with observation and science

The greatest commandment is to Love God with all your heart, all our mind and all your soul. Please explain how logic, reason and obesrvation draws one to that conclusion?

49 posted on 11/28/2005 7:30:41 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Frenetic
homosexual acts are sinful

That was weak. There are a thousand real health reasons why homosexuality is wrong

That may be a distinction without difference. Ben Franklin said it best: "Sin is not harmful because it is forbidden, but it is forbidden because it is hurtful."

50 posted on 11/28/2005 7:47:30 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: Aussie Dasher

Very happy to read. Thanks for posting.


51 posted on 11/28/2005 7:59:44 PM PST by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
'Because we love you, we cannot accept your behavior'...i.e. we're not going to enable your self-destructiveness - perfectly good though love.....
52 posted on 11/28/2005 9:15:28 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Frenetic

In the sin you shall bear the punishment - old Spanish proverb. If you think about it, each and every sin carries with it a clear punishment, not in the afterlife, but in this one.


53 posted on 11/28/2005 9:38:14 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: The Cuban

>In the sin you shall bear the punishment - old Spanish proverb. If you think about it, each and every sin carries with it a clear punishment, not in the afterlife, but in this one.<


I would much prefer the consequences of my sin in this life than spending an eternity burning in Hell.There is no comparison and we do no favors by sugar coating it.


54 posted on 11/28/2005 9:54:02 PM PST by Blessed
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To: Aussie Dasher

Love the sinner, hate the sin.


55 posted on 11/29/2005 3:49:06 AM PST by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: Galveston Grl

"Sin is in line with natural law. Every sin has conquences of suffering that can be shown scientifically. Homosexual sex is a sin - it goes against natural law - and it's consequences are easy to depict. Just saying "it's a sin" works for true and strong believers and works for those who read; but it does not work for those who are weak in faith and who do not read."

- Thank You. Exactly my point. I sincerely doubt a homosexual would be a strong believer. Besides the Church isn't there to speak to only the faithful, it there to speak the truth to all. As I said in a previous post, sometimes in order to reach those who do not know or believe you have to approach them from their own level or else scare them away with too much religion. God gave us a brain to reason, observe and postulate, not to blindly follow. I see nothing wrong in using scientific principles or observations, natural law, etc., to support explanations on the what's and why's of sin.


56 posted on 11/29/2005 3:57:05 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: Dems_R_Losers; Frenetic
Try having this discussion with an actual homosexual person sometime. It is not fun.

Try having this conversation about contraception, sterilization, premarital sex, divorce and remarriage ... same story. When people feel that their sins are essential to their lives, they're very upset about the plain word "sin," never mind all the physical or psychological health discussion.

If the point had carried with heterosexuals over the last 40 years, I don't think we'd be having the current issues with homosexuality at all. There just aren't that many homosexuals; the resistance to traditional morality has the force of the majority behind it.

57 posted on 11/29/2005 5:39:33 AM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: Blessed

This is not sugar coating it. Without repentence, the punishment experienced in this life is but a foretaste for the punishment that will be meted out in the next. Though this may be so, there is no denying the very fact that punishment begins with the very sin itself.


58 posted on 11/29/2005 4:14:21 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: Aussie Dasher

Yeah, but Boston's been blessed to have Archbishop O'Malley. He was at the forefront opposing homosexual marriage in Massachusetts. When I was still in that area for school, he and the church lead a rally I attended (along with a couple thousand others) in Boston Commons against the SJC's decision.


59 posted on 11/29/2005 4:44:45 PM PST by the right side jedi
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To: Joe Republc

My feelings exactly, so many ideas that wouldn't have survived the scrutiny of a well informed man or women have come to be seen as normal because of the inability of a person to confront their personal demons and lack of knowledge concerning sexual issues and the general bullying of an emboldened class of amoral heathens who have through an ironic twist have cast themselves as victims not of their disease ridden irresponsible behavior but of an intolerant society that forces them to be disease ridden as if it is the puritans among us ticketing them if they don’t go down in public restrooms.
The sex that people learn about today is a paradox, sex instead of being evaluated like any other human behavior, having both appropriate and inappropriate features has reached an interesting limbo where it is both harmless yet absolutely essential so much so that if one does not have an exciting diverse sex life fulfilling their every inclination then they are uptight and repressed. This is cumulating in such a way that even criminal sexual behavior is slowly being decriminalized, already we see "progressive" European societies are lowering consent ages so that pedophiles no longer are defined as such and here in the US we let the sexually disturbed meet after school and offer in school programs to promote sexual deviance. There is an also a growing level of sexual aggression among young people especially young males who have been raised with roll models that emphasis sex as a taking activity…not unlike stealing a pair of high priced sneakers.
More than anything else I think people need to be deprogrammed from thinking that kindness is permissiveness and that acceptance of bad behavior is a prerequisite for tolerance. We do not have to accept the changes that a small minority wants to foist on us and our families.


60 posted on 11/29/2005 9:14:47 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Loving thy enemy is not allowing them dominion over you.)
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