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Settlers destroy Palestinian olive trees [Happens Every Year This Time]
Reuters ^ | Nov. 27, 2005

Posted on 11/27/2005 12:27:01 PM PST by Alouette

NABLUS, West Bank (Reuters) - Jewish settlers cut down and uprooted hundreds of olive trees on Palestinian farms near the West Bank city of Nablus on Sunday, residents and Israeli police said.

Settlers from the most radical enclaves in the occupied West Bank have often attacked farms since the start of a Palestinian uprising in 2000, in which settlers have often been targeted by militants.

Settlers say that the land, which Palestinians want for a state, is theirs by biblical birthright.

Residents of Salem said dozens of settlers from Elon Moreh chopped down hundreds of the town's olive trees, the main source of income for 5,000 residents.

"This is not the first time that settlers have cut down dozens of olive trees. Among them were trees more than 30 years old," said Adli Eshiya, a local councilor. Villagers said it was the sixth such attack this year.

Police said that at least 200 olive trees had been destroyed near Salem and that an investigation had begun.

A spokesman for Elon Moreh settlement, Benny Katsover, said he was not aware of the incident.

More than 245,000 settlers live in the West Bank, home to 2.4 million Palestinians. The World Court has said that all of Israel's settlements on land captured in the 1967 Middle East war are illegal. Israel disputes this.

Settlers' anger has grown more intense since Israel removed settlements from the Gaza Strip this year under Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's plan for breaking from conflict with the Palestinians.

Although Sharon has said he has no further plans for unilateral withdrawals, he has said that some isolated West Bank settlements would have to go under any eventual peace deal. Elon Moreh is one of the smaller settlements.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: olives; olivetrees; palestinians; pruning; settlers
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To: Alouette
Are these olive trees actually on Land Owned by Palestinians?
81 posted on 11/27/2005 2:24:29 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Piranha

"If it is determined that we are speaking about a provocation in which someone cut these branches and then filed a false accusation with the police, then we are dealing with false testimony, which is a serious infraction," police superintendent Doron Ben-Ami told IsraelNationalNews."

From your article. Who did the cutting then? The palis did the expert cutting, then said the trees were destroyed but didn't destroy them? It does not make sense. Sounds like a pretty bad "setup" to me. Something that wouldn't require an expert, or even a cop, to figure out.


82 posted on 11/27/2005 2:25:01 PM PST by notigar
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To: Alouette

Thanks for sharing your opinion on Bush and the TANG.


84 posted on 11/27/2005 2:27:22 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: A. Pole
WTF does that have to do with the article? The trees were not destroyed. They were pruned.

If you want to discuss atrocities against Native Americans than please either find a thread about the subject or post your own article.
85 posted on 11/27/2005 2:33:41 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: rogue yam
It is not my responsibility to pretend that I am unable to learn who Alouette is, no matter what you say.

I didn't "say" anything. I asked you where your evidence was that she is lying.

See the difference?


86 posted on 11/27/2005 2:34:34 PM PST by rdb3 (Wheelchair? What wheelchair?)
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To: Nachum
While no party has a monopoly on truth, the Arabs have a whole production company designed to produce propaganda.

Both sides have. One side have upper hand in Europe and Third World countries, the other in USA. The Arab Christians have nobody to defend them.

87 posted on 11/27/2005 2:36:55 PM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: notigar

Somehow, I do not think you are going to get an answer.


88 posted on 11/27/2005 2:37:04 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: rogue yam
One of the basic techniques of people like Alouette is to play dumb and thereby waste other people's time

And the basic technique of people like you is to engage in ad hominum attacks instead of answering the argument.

Alouette has chosen to continue lying

Where has Alouette lied specifically? If all you can do is name-call, then you are exactly what you claim she is.

89 posted on 11/27/2005 2:38:22 PM PST by Nachum (go White Sox!)
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To: rdb3

We seem to be a lot of liars (or as in my case a liar or a moron) on this thread.

My transgression consisted of "pretending" to ask for photographic evidence of uprooted trees.

:)


90 posted on 11/27/2005 2:39:09 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Grizzled Bear
The trees were not destroyed. They were pruned. If you want to discuss atrocities against Native Americans than please either find a thread about the subject or post your own article.

You misuderstood what I said. I did not want to switch the subject to American Indians. I used the analogy. But do not worry, this thread probably will be pulled out soon. These are the signs:

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91 posted on 11/27/2005 2:41:51 PM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: It's me

I didn't read that the entire crop had been done, did you? I did read in the article after the police investigation that the trees were pruned professionally and would be producing in 2 - 3 months. That isn't drastically pruning, imo.


92 posted on 11/27/2005 2:44:59 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (I have a drink at night for my heart. Yeah, my heart, that's it.)
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To: A. Pole
Both sides have. One side have upper hand in Europe and Third World countries, the other in USA. The Arab Christians have nobody to defend them.

Both sides have production companies that are documented in producing outright lies? What is the Israeli equivalent of Pallywood?

93 posted on 11/27/2005 2:45:07 PM PST by Nachum (go White Sox!)
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To: Nachum
What is the Israeli equivalent of Pallywood?

Is it a trick question? :)

94 posted on 11/27/2005 2:46:20 PM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: WV Mountain Mama

If it means two to three months of lost income the impact is drastic.


95 posted on 11/27/2005 2:49:17 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: A. Pole
it a trick question? :)

Not at all. If you can show an Israeli equivalent of:

Dead people getting up from the ground and walking away-

Wounded people falling off their stretcher and jumping back on when the camera returns

Gunmen firing into an empty building while a director tells the extras to walk by

Shoppers walking by with their family and a stroller while a mock terror attack takes place for the cameras

Go ahead- please show me. I await your examples.

96 posted on 11/27/2005 2:51:09 PM PST by Nachum (go White Sox!)
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To: It's me

Did you see any uprooted trees??? One "dramatic" picture of an idiot wailing under a pruned, unuprooted tree.

So who's spinning?


97 posted on 11/27/2005 2:51:47 PM PST by rock58seg (My votes for Pres. Bush, the best man available, have finally borne fruit with Alito's nomination.)
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To: A. Pole; Nachum
Is it a trick question? :)

No, it is not. Like Nachum, I'd like to see the Israeli counterpart to Pallywood. Where is it?


98 posted on 11/27/2005 2:52:19 PM PST by rdb3 (Wheelchair? What wheelchair?)
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To: notigar

Here's the whole article: http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=52528

According to the article: "Police now feel that left-wing Israelis and the Arab tree-owners may have manufactured the entire incident as a provocation and a way to besmirch the Jewish population. The police have requested that Rabbi Arik Asherman of the Reform Movement and an Arab who filed charges against Jewish Yesha residents submit to lie-detector tests - but the two have, thus far, refused to do so."

"Rabbi Elyakim Levanon of Elon Moreh said that he was told by "official sources" that the pruning involved "dozens of hours of electric sawing." How is it, he asks, "that no one heard? I heard that one of the Arabs said something like, 'we heard something, but we didn't pay attention.' This is a total put-on: how could it be that throughout hours and even days of work, an entire village heard nothing?! [It's possible] that the Arabs did it themselves, in the course of regular pruning, after which someone had the brilliant idea of blaming it on the Jews...""


99 posted on 11/27/2005 2:55:29 PM PST by Piranha
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Actually, if you are referring to the article that I posted, that relates to the last time the Palestinian arabs tried to pull this stunt, in 2003. It doesn't relate to the current situation.


100 posted on 11/27/2005 2:58:06 PM PST by Piranha
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