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To: narby

"So they should just take the SAT. What's the problem?"

Now you get to the real point of the suit - to force the public Universities in California to accept Creation Biology, and other stuff as equivalent to real Biology and other stuff. Another, more subtle, wedge into the classroom.

If the suit is successful, then the Creos will argue "See, even the UC (one of the most liberal) system accepts the teaching of Creationism, so why not teach it in the public schools. The suit is a trial balloon in a search for other strategies.


28 posted on 11/27/2005 8:04:01 AM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws
I'll give the lawsuit one point. If UC is admitting buddist and Islamic history classes, but not Christian centered history classes, then they've screwed up. They should either admit them all, or none of them.

But teaching creationist biology should not be accepted. Allowing students into UC who will undoubtedly spread their faith centered doubts about the veracity of science education just shouldn't be done. It would bring into question the validity of a degree from UC, and hurt other students.

29 posted on 11/27/2005 8:12:05 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: furball4paws
Now you get to the real point of the suit - to force the public Universities in California to accept Creation Biology, and other stuff as equivalent to real Biology and other stuff. Another, more subtle, wedge into the classroom.

I am sure the public Universities in California are already accept the teaching of Creation Biology, it is just those classes are not suitable for admission to the university.

Have you ever checked the courses being offered at universities these days! Just about anything goes, if the scholastic standards for writing are there: Murder 101, Pop Music 101, Elvis just left the Building 101, Sociology 101: Marriage and the Family, Kissing 101, etc, etc. I am sure if a Creationist writes their views in a paper for a Philosophy of Religion class, with high enough writing skills, they will get an A, just as an evolutionist would.

I think this lawsuit is just another cheap publicity stunt to get the topic in the news. Those dorks that need 5 courses of remedial biology before they can meet minimum science requirements are just going to be a burden to the University. I know the University of WA is starting to impose penalties on students who don't complete their degree in 4 years.

35 posted on 11/27/2005 8:45:26 AM PST by phantomworker (We don't see things as they are, we see things as WE are.<==> Perception is everything.)
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To: furball4paws

Ah, a Creation Conspiracy! I love it!


63 posted on 11/27/2005 10:57:40 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: furball4paws
Now you get to the real point of the suit - to force the public Universities in California to accept Creation Biology, and other stuff as equivalent to real Biology and other stuff. Another, more subtle, wedge into the classroom.

If the suit is successful, then the Creos will argue "See, even the UC (one of the most liberal) system accepts the teaching of Creationism, so why not teach it in the public schools. The suit is a trial balloon in a search for other strategies.
That is a fascinating hypothesis. If that's what's really going on, then expect to see more lawsuits popping up in other states after the judge rules on this one. (Then it'll graduate to a theory. :-)
71 posted on 11/27/2005 1:26:57 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Art of Unix Programming by Raymond)
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