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To: don asmussen
Most of us have, -- and very few have imagined they have found any "community rights" enumerated in those documents.

Let me throw out another word for community rights: 'Democracy'

151 posted on 11/27/2005 10:54:19 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz
Let me throw out another word for community rights: 'Democracy'

A concept which the Founding Fathers regarded as abhorrent when they created the REPUBLIC.

153 posted on 11/27/2005 11:08:12 AM PST by supercat (Sony delinda est.)
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To: zbigreddogz
zbigreddogz wrote:

So:
Freedom is either 100% or 0%, there is no in between,

Wrong. The "in between" is our Constitution, as written.

(which, BTW, was exactly what the founders were fighting for, a balance between totalitarianism and anarchy, a balance between the rights of the individual and the rights of the community)

Wrong. Communities have no rights, they are delegated powers by our State Constitutions, which are subject to, and must support our Law of the Land, the US Constitution. [see Art. VI]

You really ought to try reading, say, the Federalist Papers, or one of the many books about the Constitutional Convention.

Most of us have, -- and very few have imagined they have found any "community rights" enumerated in those documents.

Let me throw out another word for community rights: 'Democracy'

Yep, the 'democratic' principle that majority rules.. -- We live under a republican form of government, where our Constitution rules as supreme law.

If you think the founders were extremist libertarians, you've got another thing coming.

If you think the founders were even mild communitarians, you've got another thing coming.

154 posted on 11/27/2005 11:27:52 AM PST by don asmussen
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To: Everybody; zbigreddogz; robertpaulsen; Mojave
Can it be resolved:

Communities have no rights, they are delegated powers by our State Constitutions, which are subject to, and must support our Law of the Land, the US Constitution. [see Art. VI]

You really ought to try reading, say, the Federalist Papers, or one of the many books about the Constitutional Convention.

Most of us have, -- and very few have imagined they have found any "community rights" enumerated in those documents.

Let me throw out another word for community rights: 'Democracy'

Yep, the 'democratic' principle that majority rules.. -- We live under a republican form of government, where our Constitution rules as supreme law.

Any comments on the controversy as outlined?

155 posted on 11/27/2005 11:43:33 AM PST by don asmussen
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To: zbigreddogz
Let me throw out another word for community rights: 'Democracy'

Leftists, such as tpaine, want rule by judicial decree.

"To that union of effort may our citizens ever rally, minorities falling cordially, on the decision of a question, into the ranks of the majority, and bearing always in mind that a nation ceases to be republican only when the will of the majority ceases to be the law."
--Thomas Jefferson

157 posted on 11/27/2005 12:16:26 PM PST by Mojave
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To: zbigreddogz
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
Benjamin Franklin
214 posted on 01/19/2006 8:38:24 AM PST by woollyone (...a closed mouth gathers no feet...)
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