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To: JTN

Yeah, life's a bitch when you commit a major felony and then flee the United States to avoid paying for your massively criminal behavior--behavior that contributes to the death or stupidification (through the well-known 'burn-out' syndrome) of your customers.

There is no medical use of mary j. There are only crooks with a publicity firm.


3 posted on 11/26/2005 5:13:40 AM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

Marijuana causes death?


5 posted on 11/26/2005 5:16:30 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

If stupidification were a crime half the world would be in prison..


7 posted on 11/26/2005 5:21:35 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

The major felony of trying to relieve his own pain? Oh yeah, strap this guy in the chair.

You're aware, aren't you, that once this guy's in prison, hell be getting pain medication that's more dangerous and addictive than marijuana, right? And you'll be paying for it.


8 posted on 11/26/2005 5:22:13 AM PST by JTN ("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

BTW, I forgot to ask - what was the "major felony?"


9 posted on 11/26/2005 5:25:58 AM PST by JTN ("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
There is no medical use of mary j.

In early 1967, I was drenched by the South China Sea washing over the side of our Destroyer, while UnRep fueling. I was told to go down to the infirmary, and get a little bottle of brandy...

In 1967, I was on a summer cruise to San Francisco. After attending a midshipman's ball, I went with some friends to Haight Street, and bought a little matchbox full of mary j. I smoked it in a cigarette, emptyed of tobacco. I liked it.

In 1994, I was bitten by a tick, and contracted Lyme disease. I almost died. I smoke "mary j." now, to relieve some of the symptoms. I still get high, sure, but it has definitely helped relieve the symptoms of the Lyme disease. My doctor recommended it.

You have no idea what you are talking about!!

11 posted on 11/26/2005 5:27:08 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Tell that to people with severe glaucoma (among other nasty and painful diseases). If some one has a terrible diseases and it helps them have a better quality of life, I'm not going to stand in their way.

I'm a Californian, a Republican and I voted to legalize MJ for people who's doctor says it provides relief. I also don't appreciate the Fed stepping in and trampling states rights and the will of the state's voters.
14 posted on 11/26/2005 5:28:38 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
There is no medical use of mary j.
Perhaps you should notify the federal government.
From...http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/ongoing/marinol.html...Medical marijuana already exists.

It's called Marinol.

The crowd on your side of the street is getting smaller.
Lots of new research is out further disproving your hypothesis.
41 posted on 11/26/2005 5:51:40 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Yeah, life's a bitch when you commit a major felony and then flee the United States to avoid paying for your massively criminal behavior

Hey even professional drug traffickers need love.

49 posted on 11/26/2005 5:54:21 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

and what's your stand on alcohol and tobacco?


74 posted on 11/26/2005 6:05:14 AM PST by jrg
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised; All
If a person thinks they have been harmed by another person's act of possessing a drug then the person should take the drug possessor to court and convince an impartial jury. That way the "victim" may gain restitution for his or her pain and suffering.

You've never done that because you know that even if the judge didn't refuse the case as frivolous it would be highly improbable that you'd ever convince an impartial jury that the mere act of a person possessing drugs caused you harm. 

Instead, you'll argue that drug possession and or use causes harm to society -- causes harm to the group. You'll take a communitarian stand. Of course, you'll have to turn a blind eye to reality. That is, for a group of people to exist there is a prerequisite that first the individual must exist. 

Each time an individual is sacrificed -- in whole or in part -- the group suffers a loss.  Protect the rights of the smallest minority -- the lone individual -- and the rights of all minorities and the majority are protected.

The federal government creates each year, on average, 3,000 new laws and regulations. Each one of those laws has people that support it and will argue why the new law is necessary. Proclaiming that without those new laws people and society will run headlong into destruction.

In reality virtually every person breaks one or more laws several times a year. Yet with every person violating the law people and society have not moved toward self-destruction. Instead, individuals and society have increasingly prospered.

Over the past several years and decades people and society increasingly prospered despite not having the supposed benefits of future laws yet to come. Today, people and society increasingly prosper despite not having the supposed benefits of next years new laws or, new laws to come five, ten fifteen years in the future.

Ninety-eight percent of the people do not knowingly initiate force, threat of force or fraud against any person or their property. Though, through widespread ignorance most people negligently support government initiation of force against persons and their property.

108 posted on 11/26/2005 6:26:30 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Spoken as a true, ignorant, hypocritcal, anti-freedom fascist.

Couldn't have said it better myself!

112 posted on 11/26/2005 6:29:25 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Good morning.
"Yeah, life's a bitch when you commit a major felony and then flee the United States to avoid paying for your massively criminal behavior"

I've read that over use of hyperbole to prove a point generally means the user hasn't a clue as to what they are talking about and knows it.

Thanks for confirming it.

Michael Frazier
174 posted on 11/26/2005 7:42:37 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

Yes, if you conditions that will produce chronic excruciating pain for the rest of your life, and you've got the political clout of major drug companies behind you, then you can take their massively addictive pain killers for the rest of your life - at their obscene prices, or you can be charged with a "major felony" for your "massively criminal behavior" of actually taking care of yourself.

The "massive" majority of people in prison due to the war on drugs are not the leaders of the cartels, not their wholesalers, not their distributors and not their sellers, but they are the victims of the pushers, the addicts who, tyring to save a few bucks on their addiction will buy more than the legally mandated "possession" quantity and then get a second conviction for selling added to their conviction for possession.

The war on drugs has produced nohting better than what came from the war on liquor - prohibition.

The US had a major opium/heroine epidemic from the late 1800s to the early 1900s. It was essentially wiped out, with massive education, public relations and civic affairs programs, both in the schools and to the general public, and with treatment for addicts - not massive arrests. It was after that epidemic was nearly wiped out that drug control laws began to be enacted; as if they would solve an issue that was already being resolved.


178 posted on 11/26/2005 8:03:55 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

Thank you, you are correct.
When the general public who llives in the concrete canyons finally realizes how many acres of forests and parks your tax money supports is being used by pot growers and meth cookers, maybe they won't be so teary eyed about one finnaly getting caught.
I have NO SYMPATHY for this jerk, as he has sold his product to many a youngster who possible went down a bad path from there.


183 posted on 11/26/2005 8:09:38 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
There is no medical use of mary j. There are only crooks with a publicity firm.

Yeah...same goes for opium, cocaine, pseudoephedrine, and...oh, sorry. Never mind.

185 posted on 11/26/2005 8:14:32 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Yeah, life's a bitch when you commit a major felony and then flee the United States to avoid paying for your massively criminal behavior--behavior that contributes to the death or stupidification (through the well-known 'burn-out' syndrome) of your customers.

Apparently, stupidity -and a basic lack of respect for human liberty- is what props up this idiotic War On Some Drugs.

228 posted on 11/26/2005 4:52:58 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Yeah, life's a bitch when you commit a major felony

A pot bust is only major felony in the eyes of big government. If they were really concerned about it, do you think they would allow thousands of pounds of pot to enter daily/nightly from Mexico, along with just about everything else imaginable?

238 posted on 11/26/2005 5:28:33 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised; eyespysomething

"Major felony" ... "massively criminal behavior" ... "death" ... "stupidifcation"

Good grief.


261 posted on 11/27/2005 9:19:52 AM PST by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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