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To: B.O. Plenty
"Isn't America a great place that we can have these arguments?
I think God sent the Puritans, and other Christan groups to occupy this land, just like He sent Moses to occupy Israel. I believe He even told Moses to have his soldiers to thoroughly clean out the people living in the "promised land".

America is kind of the second "promised land" established by God if you will. If America were suddenly to disappear from the earth, all the countries here would revert back into feudel, warlord societies, scientific advances would grind to a halt, and freedom everywhere would die.

What kind of land do you think America would be now if the indians had won?"

The issue if what kind of land this would be is moot. What others do with their property is their concern. Nor am I advocating that we undo the past. My first post on this thread states quite clearly the crimes of the past can not be undone.

You claim that God intended for our forbearer's to do this? Such a view is un Christian. Try reading the ten commandments...

V. Thou shalt not murder...
VII. Thou shalt not steal...
X. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods.

Attempting to use religion to justify crimes against our fellow human being is sacrilegious. Your position is immoral and theologically untenable. You are in my prayers.
301 posted on 11/25/2005 12:34:07 PM PST by jec1ny (Adjutorium nostrum in nomine Domine Qui fecit caelum et terram.)
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To: jec1ny
Thanks for the prayers..according to you, I need them....I will likewise pray that God would help you to stop being so judgmental and accusatory.

You also should go back into the Old Testament and review Exodus, Numbers and Joshua...paying attention to how the "promised land" was acquired by the Israelites.

306 posted on 11/25/2005 8:00:12 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: jec1ny

***V. Thou shalt not murder...
VII. Thou shalt not steal...
X. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods.

Attempting to use religion to justify crimes against our fellow human being is sacrilegious.***

The Indians had no such qualms about these as they had no law.

Trappers reported Indians killing other Indians in camp over minor slights, and killing people just for the fun of it.

Indians stole anything they could get their hands on. The only killings during the Lewis and Clark exploration was of Blackfoot indians who had stolen a rifle and horse.

Indians considered it an honor to steal from others. Horses being a prime target. Theft brought them great honor among their own tribe.

Indians thought nothing of traveling hundreds of miles just to raid a tribe or town.

Read NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS by George Catlin. (the artist),
and TOUGH TRIP THROUGH PARADISE by Andrew Garcia for examples.


307 posted on 11/25/2005 8:43:41 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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