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To: calex59
1621 to 1676 = 55 years. So, your citation of 50 years is in error.

On the other hand, one of the reasons the Pilgrims had such a long period of peace with the Indians was the arrival of various Eur/Asian/African (Old World) diseases that wiped them out ~ mostly in 1646/47/48.

I'd suggest that by 1676 (and the Pequot, et al, uprising) there'd been enough gene flow from the arriving European population to the existing Indian population to have created a new type of warrior ~ one with inherited partial immunity to the Old World diseases.

29 posted on 11/24/2005 5:32:20 PM PST by muawiyah (u)
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To: muawiyah
enough gene flow from the arriving European population

Gene flow. Never heard it called that before.

35 posted on 11/24/2005 5:35:15 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: muawiyah
Oh, wow, I missed it by 5 years, what a gross error! I was rounding things off. You are in error. Yes, some disease killed off some Indians. Most of the disease came from the spaniards and affected the Mississippi valley when they explored florida and then went inland, the disease the spanish spread killed whole tribes in the Mississipi valley and in Florida, evidence of these tribes can be seen in th emounds that have been uncovered. This killed many, many Indians. The pilgrims killed very few with disease and killed ever fewer with fighting. They had a very good relationship with the natives.

People who came later however, were not so understanding and also tribes in other areas were more warlike.

The combination of settlers who were less tolerant plus the more warlike tribes, such as the mohawk, and the mother of all eastern tribes, the Deleware, and all the other eastern and north eastern tribes, and the fact that the British and the French used various tribes in their wars against each other was not condusive to the survival of the native Indians.

Down through history more advanced civilizations have absorbed or wiped out less advanced civilizations. It isn't the ideal situation but it is the way it was. Crying and moaning about it now will not change things.

Making the pilgrims, the least offensive of the people who came to these shores, is ridiculous and this tribe in SF that did this is showing their prejudice and lack of understanding of the way things really happened.

84 posted on 11/24/2005 6:10:08 PM PST by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, I don't want to go!)
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