[Wonder Warthog]

"Only when you can duplicate speciation in the lab, under reproducible conditions (something that was once taught to me when I worked in a lab was a very necessary part of science), does it start becoming the law and dogma that evos claim. And I'm not talking viruses, single-cells or asexually reproducing creatures."

It's been done. The test species was a variety of fruit fly. The result was two different species of fruit files that couldn't interbreed (i.e. they were more different genetically, for instance, than lions and tigers, or horses and jackasses).

[ValerieUSA]

Some people will believe anything.

[Mamzelle]

I've been all through the claims of speciation of fruit flies. Is this Dr. Wu of the U of Chicago?

I guess you can play around with definitions--this is usually the escape hatch of evos. While you may decry the intelligence of those who doubt or merely challenge the "law" of evolution--we just might have a common sense understanding of what evolution means--new species from old. You ain't got no NEW yet.

[Bellflower]

It's been done. The test species was a variety of fruit fly. The result was two different species of fruit files that couldn't interbreed (i.e. they were more different genetically, for instance, than lions and tigers, or horses and jackasses)......

But they were still fruit flies. No one says that there is not specialization within a species. The gene info is becoming less and more selective not greater or different. Nothing is being added.