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To: Polybius; Jeff Head
Bush should have been saying what you just wrote, on a daily basis, until the American public could recite it from memory

And just who does the Whine All the Time Choir think is going to echo those words to the American people. Even the "Conservative" pundits spend most their time regurgitating DNC Talking Points. Doesn't do any good for Bush to go out and give a stellar speech, like he did today, only to hear all the supposedly "Conservative" pundits spend all their time whining about "Bush's lousy PR". The fact of the matter is the whiners in the Conservative movement spend all their time complaining about OUR side instead of DOING. Sorry but just WHINEING bout a problem does NOT excuse the Conservative from having to DO things too.

181 posted on 11/19/2005 2:53:11 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Cowards cut and run. Not Marines" Congresswoman Jean Schmidt (Republican))
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To: MNJohnnie
The fact of the matter is the whiners in the Conservative movement spend all their time complaining about OUR side instead of DOING. Sorry but just WHINEING bout a problem does NOT excuse the Conservative from having to DO things too.

So political seniority and personal gain to a politician, in your mind, shouldn't be the major drive in decision making for a lawmaker?

183 posted on 11/19/2005 2:57:54 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: MNJohnnie; Jeff Head
Bush should have been saying what you just wrote, on a daily basis, until the American public could recite it from memory

And just who does the Whine All the Time Choir think is going to echo those words to the American people. Even the "Conservative" pundits spend most their time regurgitating DNC Talking Points. Doesn't do any good for Bush to go out and give a stellar speech, like he did today, only to hear all the supposedly "Conservative" pundits spend all their time whining about "Bush's lousy PR". The fact of the matter is the whiners in the Conservative movement spend all their time complaining about OUR side instead of DOING. Sorry but just WHINEING bout a problem does NOT excuse the Conservative from having to DO things too.

And just who are you referring to as the "Whine All the Time Choir", Johnnie?

Me?

I challenge you to do a search on my postings and show that this anything other than the second time I have I have brought this particular issue up.

I got totally fed up after the Katrina PR disaster.

The abandonment of thousands of low-income residents to be trapped in New Orleans during and after Katrina was a human catastrophe brought about by the gross incompetence of the Democrat Mayor of New Orleans and the Democrat Governor of Louisiana.

Many Freepers, including myself, spent countless hours documenting this Democrat-produced fiasco hoping to educate the lurking media and American public.

What Is "Storm Surge" and Why It Matters. (Katrina Education Vanity)

And what was the White House reaction?

To me, the reaction seemed to be nothing more than to curl up in the fetal position and meekly accept the body blows of the Democrats and the liberal media who were falsely portraying the Katrina fiasco as a Bush failure.

Out here in the Left Coast, I had ample opportunity to discuss the Katrina issues with die-hard, Bush-hating Democrats who would bring up the issue of how Bush allegedly failed so miserably during Katrina.

Whenever I would hear the comment thrown out, I would talk about storm surge and New Orleans unique geography and the the Southern Louisiana Evacuation Plan and the hundreds of public buses that were never used even though video showed that the in-bound lanes on the Interstate leading into New Orleans had been left unused. I talked about how locals have the pre-storm evacuation responsibilities and first responder responsibilities and that FEMA has always been the stated that its massive logistics effort should not be expected before 5 days post-disaster.

Those rabid Democrats would listen to me dumbfounded as they had never heard a single of this before and express shock that local authorities could have been so incompetent. One of them came back to me two days later and thanked me for the information that had prompted her to research it on the Internet.

Yet, where can anyone show me where the White House ever took the information offensive on this issue?

Can anyone document that the White House ever even mentioned the hundreds New Orleans public buses that were never used as the Southern Louisiana Evacuation Plan stated they should be used?

Unless an American reads FreeRepublic or another Conservative blog, that American has never heard of the Katrina evacuation fiasco. All they "know" is that Bush did not have Scotty beam down a massive FEMA logistics train into New Orleans 12 hours after Katrina passed like was supposed to do.

Ronald Reagan was The "Great Communicator". Ronald Reagan did not have to have somebody whine for him that the liberal media "will not echo my words to the American people". Ronald Reagan went over the media's head, talked directly to the American people as often as he needed to talk to them and said what needed to be to get his message across.

Say what you will about Bill Clinton, he got his message across and his War Room was prepared to counterattack within a single news cycle.

In the Information War, however, Bush, if he counterattacks at all, does not seem to counterattack until the liberal media and the Democrats have already fired 5 broadsides and his ship has been dismasted.


202 posted on 11/19/2005 5:11:53 PM PST by Polybius
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To: MNJohnnie
We are doing things. And each of us must continue to do so with our own circles of influence.

Articles, discussions, editorials, volunteer work, demonstrations, etc., etc.

I believe that precisely because conservatives and loyal Americans are doing things, that we have avoided disasterous liberal administrations in the last two elections and have been able to maintain our support for the mission now.

That does not mean we are either relieved of or incapable of calling our own side on issues as we see them. Continually holding our own feet to the fire where necessary as we proceed with historic events in this war are part and parcel of what it is we must do.

208 posted on 11/19/2005 5:18:51 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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