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To: normy

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech on 12 April 1922


58 posted on 11/19/2005 10:53:05 AM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

This is just evidence of Hitler's evil brilliance in pulling the wool over people's eyes. He may have even actually believed these words - assuming they are accurately attributed to him - back in 1922.

I've heard that all but two of the prominent Nazis who fled to the Arab world after WWII converted to Islam. Of course, from one barbaric, totalitarian faith to another is not necessarily a large leap.


60 posted on 11/19/2005 11:25:54 AM PST by Lessingham (Robert Aickman and Russell Kirk: The Best Ghost Story Writers Were On the Political Right)
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To: bkepley
The Nazis didn't do what they did for Jesus, they did it for the State and the Fuhrer. Just because Hitler may or may not have said that doesn't change that the teachings of Jesus ever came close to justifying Hitlers actions.

Its clear Hitler was into various religions and witchcraft's and so on. He may have used Christianity to further his cause among certain people, but the teachings of Jesus or his Apostles do not line up with that. If you want to prove to me that Christianity as Jesus walked it spoke of murdering Jews and proselytizing by force, please quote me the verses where this is taught. Don't quote some propaganda piece Hitler may have said.

104 posted on 11/20/2005 5:31:44 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: bkepley

Another one of Hitler's lying speeches in order to sway any sympathetic, weak Christians to his side. He hated Christianity because it's basis was Jesus, a Jew. Read Mein Kampf, it's all there. He put hundreds, if not thousands, of Catholic priests in his concentration camps. He was quoted that after the war (assuming it was won) he would seek to destroy the Church, the only other institution in his way. Hitler was not a practicing Christian, nor was his parents, according to any history I've read. Stick with ALL the facts, just not those chosen for your arguments.

And with regard to your comment that maybe Islam overtime will be somehow tamed; no, it cannot, it is based on lies and evil to begin with, therefore it's outcome can only be the same.


115 posted on 11/20/2005 10:48:04 AM PST by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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