[SoothingDave]

And his scientific points and arguments that life was not intelligently designed are...? Just more rhetoric.

The only "rhetoric" here is your attempt to twist what was said. He only said ID was not science and should not be taught as such. He never said he did not believe life was intelligently designed.

Only that such a thing is belief and not science.

SD

[unlearner]

"Only that such a thing is belief and not science."

Science is based on and inseparable from philosophy and natural faith.

"He only said ID was not science and should not be taught as such."

Math is also not science (at least not a natural science). Should we keep math out the science class too?

Evolutionists act like their version of reality is so self evident, we have to be blind not to see it. This is the worst kind of dogmatism, and has always served to slow the progress of science rather than enable it.

Great scientists appreciate the importance of epistemology.