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To: lugsoul
Bottom line, you charged that 'data' is being censored that would lead to the conclusion of an intelligent designer, and you continue to charge that, but you can't identify a single piece of data that is being censored.

I believe you are misquoting me. Searching previous posts, I cannot see where I ever claimed that any data would LEAD TO THE CONCLUSION of an intelligent designer. My position isn't about proven conclusions. You would admit that Darwinian evolution position certainly has flaws. Are these flaws made available for popular consumption? At the same time, there is evidence that supports the i.d. hypothesis, especially in the micro-science fields, and math (probability). Is this evidence fairly presented? It's never been my position to proove or disproove either theory. What I have asserted is that there is a debate going on in the upper echelons of the science community and BOTH cite evidence (data). Evidence supporting both sides should be presented. This brings us back to my question to you. Do you think there is any evidence which supports (not prooves) the i.d. position? If you say no, then we can stop this right now, because you're just uninformed.
230 posted on 11/23/2005 8:35:23 AM PST by Nanny7
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To: Nanny7
If you didn't see my direct answer to that question, you either aren't trying to read what I've said or you are trying to avoid it.

Now, in answer to your other questions:

Are the flaws fairly presented? Yes. In every single biology class I've ever had, in public schools from elementary school through college.

Is the evidence that supports the ID hypothesis fairly presented? Well, that question is kind of hard to answer since you won't indentify what evidence you are referencing, or what you think isn't being fairly presented, but my answer based upon evidence that I could argue supports the hypothesis is an unequivocal yes - as well as evidence that undermines the hypothesis.

As far as the supposed debate you reference, you are pretty loose with your description - there is no one in the 'upper echelons' of the science community who does not believe in the theory of natural selection as presented by Darwin. No one.

231 posted on 11/23/2005 11:15:07 AM PST by lugsoul
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