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The return of the dreaded 11 Commandments of a THANKSGIVING DINNER
CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | Nov. 17 2005 | Carlo3b, Dad, Chef, Author

Posted on 11/17/2005 9:19:47 AM PST by carlo3b

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To: carlo3b

Yummy!!! Thank you for all the recipes!


321 posted on 11/22/2005 6:49:20 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: carlo3b

Carlo3b,

Thanks for all your yummy recipes, and great stories about growing up Italian-You are a bright spot in my life.

Happy Thanksgiving!
Sockmonkey


322 posted on 11/22/2005 7:01:50 AM PST by sockmonkey
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To: carlo3b

We did the turkey thing for years - now it's payback. We go to the children's homes for Thanksgiving and chat with grandchildren while someone else does the cooking. Thanks for the recipes...


323 posted on 11/22/2005 7:05:24 AM PST by GOPJ (The costs of launching an attack on America are high - antiwar dems are working to change that)
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To: carlo3b

Man--for a Texan, you sure cook Thanksgiving dinner a lot different than I do! I'm already up to my eyeballs in preparation, though.


324 posted on 11/22/2005 7:54:05 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: carlo3b

Yum Bump


325 posted on 11/22/2005 8:11:48 AM PST by hattend (In France, it's not just the cheese that's soft and runny.)
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To: carlo3b
Thanks for the link to

The Clinton Legacy Cookbook!

I've bought a few of these in the past to give to friends. They make excellent gifts. Even my liberal friend (who thinks Hillary Clinton would make a great president) loves hers!

326 posted on 11/22/2005 8:17:53 AM PST by jellybean (George Allen 2008)
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To: carlo3b

Awww.......thanks, Sweetie! It's my favorite!


327 posted on 11/22/2005 9:05:38 AM PST by MozartLover ( My son, my soldier, my hero. Protect him, Lord, wherever he goes, and keep him strong.)
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To: carlo3b

Very fine fare!


328 posted on 11/22/2005 9:20:17 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: carlo3b
Can't you ever be series?

As long as you've known me, and you ask that question...?

Behave...

As long as you've known me, and you make that request...?

329 posted on 11/22/2005 10:33:13 AM PST by Lazamataz (When life gives you lemons, kick it in the shins and take its wallet.)
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To: carlo3b
OMGosh Carlo- WHOA... Krispy Kreme Pudding??? LOL... who would have thunk it. I am making my grocery list right now. Why doesn't anyone carry fresh allspice anymore? AGH...
330 posted on 11/22/2005 12:11:34 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: carlo3b

The krispy kreme pudding looks very good. Do you know if you can make it without the rum? Or is it like fruit cake, without the rum it's not really that good? Just wondering. Thanks for the thread. I really look forward to all the recipes. :)


331 posted on 11/22/2005 2:56:52 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: carlo3b

My last honeymoon was the period between "I DO", and "You'd Better"..


LOL! :) I am going to tell that one to my husband. :)


332 posted on 11/22/2005 3:02:02 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: EmilyGeiger
Do you know if you can make it without the rum?

Sure you can, although I really liked it with the rum.. :)

333 posted on 11/22/2005 4:43:42 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: carlo3b

It sounds absolutely divine. My arteries were clogging just reading it. :) I love Krispy Kreme donuts. Especially when they are hot and with a cup of coffee. We have a KK nearby so I thought I might try it, but have no rum, but do have the other ingredients on hand.

By the way, I made your Tex Mex Sweet Potato Fries tonight and they were so good!!!! Thanks for all the great recipes. :)


334 posted on 11/22/2005 4:49:35 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Why doesn't anyone carry fresh allspice anymore? AGH...

You can still find fresh allspice at health food markets.. But!!!!!! You can punch up the flavor of most spices by popping them in the microwave for 20 seconds.. just place the spice in a coffee filter over a 1/2 cup of water. Yo!

335 posted on 11/22/2005 4:51:37 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: Lazamataz
You are incorrigible.. and thats why I lov'ya man.. :)
336 posted on 11/22/2005 4:54:51 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: sockmonkey; christie; stanz; jellybean; Angelique; Howie; TwoStep; piasa; Exit148; RJayneJ; ...
YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD!

Celery Sage Bread Stuffing
(And the Gravy that makes it soooooo wonderful)

If you ask the average person what is it about Thanksgiving dinner that makes it so memorable, Most (over 50%) placed the Turkey as their favorite part of the holiday feast. The runner-up (with about 25% of the vote) was stuffing. I would've voted for the runner-up! Sure, turkey, mashed potatoes, glazed yams and all the rest are essential to the feast, but for my money, the dressing IS the REAL meal (oh, and don't forget that gravy!). Everything else is just. . well . . dressing!

Please, please don't purchase those gagya stuffing crumbs from the supermarket - just ordinary bread with better flavor, texture, and price. Simple ingredients and simple preparation.

The Basic Recipe

    * 2 sticks (a half-pound) of butter
    * 1 large onion, chopped
    * 6 tsp. thyme
    * 2 tsp. sage
    * 2 tsp. salt
    * 4 tsp. black pepper
    * 2-1/2 lbs of bread, cubed or torn
    * 1 bunch celery, chopped
    * 2 cups cold milk
    * 2 cups cold broth

Melt butter in saucepan and sauté onion, thyme, sage, salt and pepper until the onions are barely tender. Place celery (uncooked) and bread cubes in a very large bowl.

Remove onion/butter/herb blend from the heat and add broth and milk to it. Pour mixture over bread/celery mix, and blend thoroughly and gently with a wooden spoon or wooden spatula.

Stuff bird (rub the cavity with lemon first) and roast in a preheated oven (20 minutes per pound at 325o for turkey, 30 minutes per pound for chicken; baste frequently in either case). Bake excess alone in foil or casserole for 30-45 minutes, depending on desired crust (alternately, the entire batch can be baked this way).

The recipe makes a gallon of stuffing, enough for a family of eight as part of a holiday feast. The basic recipe assumes canned chicken stock. However, fresh stock is much tastier (and so much cheaper!). If you've got fresh (unsalted) stock handy, add an extra teaspoon of salt.

Notes and Options
This is a basic ``two-loaf'' recipe; two loaves of most commercially available breads total about 2.5 lbs (weight is given as a guideline to those using many different breads, or homemade bread). One large onion is good for about 2 cups chopped, and 1 bundle of celery makes 3 cups chopped. A turkey-sized roasting pan, devoid of poultry, can handle a heaped-up-piled-up double batch if you're seriously into your stuffing.

Don't use dried ``stuffing crumbs.'' It's needlessly expensive! However, the thyme/sage blend can be replaced with a quality brand of Poultry Seasoning with no loss in flavor. What's in ``poultry seasoning'' varies widely from brand to brand (some cheaper brands have a lot of cheap ``filler'' herbs). McCormick's is a very good blend which favors thyme.

Optional Seasonings: The addition of any or all of a pinch of marjoram, 4 tbsp lemon juice, 2 tsp. celery seed, 1 1/2 cups parsley, 3/4 cups bacon bits, 1/4 tsp. cayenne, 1/2 cup chopped leeks (replacing onion entirely), 1 tsp. seasoning salt (replacing part of the plain salt), 1 tbsp Chinese Hot Oil, or 4 tbsp olive oil will certainly enhance it.

You want more.. Further Additions: Putting a little extra substance in the stuffing is good. Try an egg, or 1 cup chopped mushrooms, 1 cup of diced ham, 1/2 cup of chopped nuts, or 3 slices of chopped, crisp bacon. Diced, cooked giblets work well, but they are better used in making gravy (see below). A half-cup of hot italian sausage (chopped as thoroughly as possible) does nice things, too.

Chilled Stuffing: Make the ``raw'' (unbaked) stuffing a day in advance, and keep chilled in the refrigerator overnight before stuffing the bird and/or baking the stuffing. This allows the flavors to blend.

Multi-Bread: You can go crazy with bread! Use it all, stale biscuits (the unsweetened white-flour pastry-kind, for those of you outside the U.S.), bagels, soft pretzels, wheat, pumpernickel, rye, sourdough, saltines, and anything else even vaguely bread-like works. Clean out the fridge! Whether to toast the bread first is a matter of personal taste. If you enjoy home-baking, make the bread fresh; it will VASTLY improve the stuffing! Here is where I get into trouble with my rebel neighbors, a cornbread blend is best for chicken or pork.

Potato Chip Stuffing: Don't knock this 'till you try it, and the kids will love you for it if you remember to tell them what they're eating: Add 1/2 cup crushed potato chips and 1/2 cup broken pretzel sticks to the sauté at the same time the broth is added. Add a little extra milk, too.

Stuffin Muffins: Instead of baking in casserole or bird, bake stuffing in muffin pans; one batch will make about 30 half-cup croquettes. Reduce baking time by 15 minutes.

Single Guy/Girl Stuffing     * 1/2 cup chopped onion
    * 1/2 stick of butter
    * 2 tsp. thyme
    * 1 tsp. black pepper
    * 2 tsp. salt
    * Half-loaf of bread, cubed or torn
    * 3 stalks of celery, chopped
    * 1 cup cold milk or broth

No, not for stuffing dead bachelors; for feeding live ones. This is a variant of the main recipe scaled-down to one-fourth of the normal size, for bachelors, recluses, gamers, and other shut-ins. When scaled down to this level, the dressing can be prepared using a small saucepan and a two-quart mixing bowl, and baked in any small oven-safe pan.

Follow the instructions for the normal recipe. Makes a good dirt-cheap lunch if you toss on some leftover chicken meat and a little gravy, or a side dish in a holiday-dinner-for-two, or dinner-for-one with leftovers.

A Near Perfect Giblet Gravy

    * giblets and/or neck parts
    * 1/2 cup chopped onion
    * 1/2 tsp. Thyme
    * 1 tsp. black pepper
    * 1/2 cup turkey fat (from pan drippings)
    * 1/2 cup flour

Place giblets and/or neck in a pot with onion, thyme and pepper. Add six cups cold water. Bring to a boil and skim, then simmer, covered, while the bird roasts.

When the bird is done, strain broth into a bowl and discard solids. Salt broth at this point if desired; 1.5 tsp. is recommended (about half the salt of canned broth). Add drippings or milk to the giblet broth to bring it back up to 6 cups of fluid.

Collect 1/2 cup of pan drippings from the bird and make a roux with the flour. Cook the roux lightly and add the broth (slowly, a half cup at a time) to it to make gravy.

Serve immediately; giblet gravy is the essential accompaniment to dressing, sliced turkey, and mashed potatoes!
 

FRESH CRANBERRY ORANGE SAUCE
In a 4 quart kettle combine sugar, cloves, cinnamon, orange juice and water. Bring to a boil, reduce heat and simmer 10 minutes. Discard cloves. Add cranberries; bring to a boil; reduce heat and simmer for 10 minutes, stirring constantly. Discard cinnamon. Add orange rind.

337 posted on 11/22/2005 5:20:03 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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I wonder how many freepers would practically kill to have Thanksgiving dinner at your house.

I'd certainly consider maiming, at a minimum.

338 posted on 11/22/2005 5:25:54 PM PST by Dog Gone
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I think I'm gonna try "Drunken Turkey" this year.
My ma is doing a regular bird but I'm going to get a small
one and put it over a large Foster's lager can on the BBq.
Should be good.


339 posted on 11/22/2005 5:28:29 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Dog Gone

I'm not hiding behind turkey.. you are all invited.. come on down.. I'll throw another potato in the pot!.. LOLOL


340 posted on 11/22/2005 5:31:12 PM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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