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To: OregonRancher

"My wife and I were talking with a security guard at the Medford shopping mall. Subject of children came up somehow and she said the if they saw a mother or dad spanking their children in the mall they were "under orders to hold them for the police for child abuse"

Holy cow. Parents really can be stuck between a rock and a hard place. It's the hardest job I've ever had, I'm glad I have my husband to be my workmate. I couldn't do it without him. But imagine the scenario: mother of 5 swats unruly 6 year old at local mall, CPS called, all 5 children removed from home. Scary, and easy to understand why parents fail to discipline in public.


189 posted on 11/14/2005 7:18:38 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle
"My wife and I were talking with a security guard at the Medford shopping mall. Subject of children came up somehow and she said the if they saw a mother or dad spanking their children in the mall they were "under orders to hold them for the police for child abuse"

Holy cow. Parents really can be stuck between a rock and a hard place. It's the hardest job I've ever had, I'm glad I have my husband to be my workmate. I couldn't do it without him. But imagine the scenario: mother of 5 swats unruly 6 year old at local mall, CPS called, all 5 children removed from home. Scary, and easy to understand why parents fail to discipline in public.

Exactly. Parents are hamstrung; if you discipine your children in public, some busybody is going to sic the authorities on you for abuse. If, and this is a big if, we were raising children now (not 30 years ago) I question if we could do as well. Now that being said, once you get away from the malls and city life, raising kids out on the ranch is just like it was years ago.

Several years ago, a friend and his 16 year old son got into an argument at home (ranch) and the son gave him some lip. Baaammm! One swift smack to the jay and down he went. Now, this is a good kid. He got up and apologized. Good family.

Next day a school a teacher noticed his jaw, got the story, and called the sheriff. Father arrested on abuse.

In court, the son tells the judge it was his fault and he had mouthed off and been disrespectful to his father. Judge told the father he couldn't strike his son under any circumstance. Father asked if he could sent him to his room and the judge said no; it would be depriving him of his family life.

Father asked what he could do and the judge said nothing. At this point it was getting almost comical and most of the courtroom was snickering at the whole thing. Bill, the father, then told the judge that he could have him and to take him to his own home.

Judge went ballistic and said maybe they could work something out after all. The whole thing was dismissed and father and son walked out of the court room with a new and deeper understanding of the liberal world.

Two weeks later the teacher was persuaded in a very physical way to depart to greener pastures and the sheriffs office never did find the perps.

225 posted on 11/14/2005 7:50:36 AM PST by OregonRancher (illigitimus non carborundum)
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