a lot of parents have had their hands tied. parents are afraid to haul off and spank or otherwise discipline because so many are reported to social services. having one adult college age student, and a high school student, in my years of raising mine, I've known lots that have ended up in anger management and otherwise had their kids taken away for spanking in the grocery store and some observer reporting the parents for abusing the kids.
so guys maybe that is why. these parents have given up and are afraid the big bad social services are going to show up for the parents disciplining the kids.
So, the time out, etc. doesn't always work. Sometimes the kid does need a spank on the backside to get their attention.
I do agree, NO REWARD FOR BAD BEHAVIOR. and yes, indoor voices please. are a step in the right direction.
but social services has been a blessing and a curse because some people will report for a swat on the butt. and it has had an impact on parents.