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So, he put a sign on the door at kids' eye-level, asking children of all ages to use their "indoor voices."

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1 posted on 11/14/2005 5:51:49 AM PST by Cagey
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But some parents who spoke with NBC5's Natalie Martinez took immediate offense to the sign. The angry mothers said there are plenty of places in the Andersonville neighborhood where they can take their kids, even if they're acting out.

OK, in the name of truth, I'd like to see some interviews with the places that don't mind when kids are "acting out".

Then they can do an interview with a bar that doesn't mind folks vomiting on the floor,

stores that don't mind people eating the produce,

gas stations that don't mind people who run over the windshield squeegees,

daycare centers that don't care if you're late picking up your child,

department stores that don't care when used clothing is brought back for a full refund,

designers who don't care when you call them just to steal their ideas,

restaurants that don't care if their wait staff is tipped, doctors who don't care when you don't pay,

attorney's who don't care if they get stiffed for court costs... ... , etc., etc. Yep, the rude are always with us - and those in business put up with it, but they don't like it.

191 posted on 11/14/2005 7:20:21 AM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?" not, "Will you work cheap?")
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Good.
Keep the brats quiet!


205 posted on 11/14/2005 7:29:18 AM PST by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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My husband and I were enjoying one of those fancy-schmancy Sunday brunches at a hotel in Las Colinas not long ago. The two of us were seated at a table normally used for 4, and we were seated adjacently, facing in toward the restaurant rather than toward the door. We had gone through the buffet line and had been seated, enjoying our meal for about 45 minutes, deeply engrossed in conversation and our food, and not really looking around.
We stood to get dessert and were very surprised to find a family of 5 seated at the directly behind us. We'd never even been aware they were there. It was the parents and 3 children, probably ages 3, 5 and 6, and judging from their plates, they'd been there a while. They were quiet as mice and engaged in quiet family table talk. The kids were conducting themselves very well, and the little 3 yr old girl was buttering her own bread and using her bread plate. We lingered over the dessert buffet, partially trying to decide and partially watching this family in amazement from the corner of our eyes. The mother, we noticed, was taking the time to individually escort each child back to the buffet, individually assisting each child, etc., while the father did the same.
Children can and should be controlled and disciplined and should be taught to be considerate of others. When I was a child, we would sit politely and quietly and often watch the kids around us running about uncontrollably. I often wondered what made us different, but it was attention and close discipline (seldom needed) on behalf of my parents.


213 posted on 11/14/2005 7:40:51 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Chuck Cooperstein is a tool.)
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Kudos for the owners of this restaurant.

Once I saw two kids allowed to run wild in a Denny's while the parents had a discussion with their adult friends. The children were climbing onto others' booths and chasing each other around the restaurant. I went up to the manager and refused to pay for my meal because the kids were rough housing near my booth. The manager marched the kids over to the parents who then argued loudly with the manager.

227 posted on 11/14/2005 7:52:01 AM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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It's real simple. You and your kids should have good manners especially in public. As for the person who said those without kids blah blah blah should apologize. It's a stupid statement because she has no idea why these people do not have kids.

Above all there is no excuse for a kid out of control.


229 posted on 11/14/2005 7:52:45 AM PST by freekitty
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If parents had a clue how to discipline their kids, a sign would not be necessary.


232 posted on 11/14/2005 7:54:32 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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I don't mind well behaved kids in a restaurant, but when they are shouting and screaming, I leave. I don't come back if that's the norm for the place.

Sometimes the restaurant has a choice, serve noisy children, or serve people who enjoy a peaceful atmosphere. The two will not willingly occupy the same space.

To me, it's unbelievable that a polite request for indoor voices and good behavior is grounds for a boycott. Generation X, I guess.


241 posted on 11/14/2005 8:01:19 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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I had breakfast one morning next to a table full of children once. The once part comes in when I explain that they were ages 8-3, all related. The mom and dad sat alone and appeared to be not with them. As I waited for the noise and mess, they surprised all at the restaurant, and colored on a book while waiting for food, the older ones helped the younger ones pour milk in cereal, and not once did they act anything other than great. It was jaw dropping, I hadn't seen children behave so well since . . . . the days when my mother ruled with an iron skillet. The parents watched them carefully, but did not once have to shoosh them, or clean up a mess..

Yes kids now rule their parents, and the parents not only defend the actions of these unruly brats, they demand others accomodate them.

243 posted on 11/14/2005 8:02:57 AM PST by jeremiah (People wake up, the water is getting hot)
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Whatever happened to common courtesy? The rules are fairly simple. There is a difference between a "child being a child" and a child being out of control. I have no problems with children in public places, but I have a big problem with "out of control" children. I've had more meals than I care to remember ruined by out of control children. How hard is it to know that when your child is running around or screaming at the top of his/her lungs you take them outside? If I lived near this bakery, I'd go out of my way to patronize it!
252 posted on 11/14/2005 8:20:20 AM PST by rhetorica
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Has anyone voted in the poll on the website listed? It is about time that store owners take back control of their businesses. I have been to some places where the racket was so loud, we could not hear what others were saying. Then there is one place in town which caters to families but the parents are in control of their children and you can eat in peace.


268 posted on 11/14/2005 8:41:57 AM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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But some parents who spoke with NBC5's Natalie Martinez took immediate offense to the sign. The angry mothers said there are plenty of places in the Andersonville neighborhood where they can take their kids, even if they're acting out.

"I've e-mailed friends and said, 'Just so you know, this man has a sign up. I know there are lots of other options, and I'd encourage you not to go there,'" parent Kate Bremmer said.

When she spoke with Martinez, Bremmer and her kids were picking out goodies at a Swedish bakery, where all kids are welcome.

"Our custom has been to offer a cookie to every child that comes into the store for as long as I can remember," said Kathy Stanton-Cromwell, the co-owner of the bakery, which is just a few doors down from A Taste of Heaven.

Stanton-Cromwell said the cookie serves as "a good calmer" for kids who are acting up.




I think this is pretty clear.

On the one hand there are people who parent their children, and those who expect children to behave in public.

On the other hand you have the people who have no control at all over their children and who reward them for being little jerks with a cookie.

It doesn't take much guesswork to figure out which kids will grow up expecting that pitching a fit will get them whatever they want when they're adults.

The tragedy is that instead of the scandal being about parents who are ruled by their children, the scorn is heaped upon a business owner who expects kids to behave decently.


282 posted on 11/14/2005 9:01:21 AM PST by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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If I lived nearby, all things being equal, I'd patronize this restaurant. With my two sons. They, too, prefer when other children behave.


286 posted on 11/14/2005 9:04:39 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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I am not seeing the problem at all. I made my children be quiet indoors.


297 posted on 11/14/2005 9:16:12 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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Angry Moms Boycott Eatery That Asks Kids To Keep Quiet

Thank goodness. Will now be a nice place to eat.

308 posted on 11/14/2005 9:28:25 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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If this is the situation that was discussed in some earlier threads, I'll say the same thing now that I said then. I don't think it's realistic to expect kids to be Stepford kids, but IMHO there's a massive difference between kids being kids and kids who are out of control.


313 posted on 11/14/2005 9:34:33 AM PST by GB
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314 posted on 11/14/2005 9:36:14 AM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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Maybe 'Angry Moms' will become a new Democrat target group for 2008.

Mothers: Are you tired of right-wingers telling your little ones how to behave? Have you had enough of Republicans allowing only perfect children in their establishments? Aren't you angry that such child-behavior discrimination is occuring in this great land? You should be! Tell holier-than-thou Republicans that you won't tolerate it anymore! Your $100, $200 or even $500 donation to the Democrats can make all the difference for your child's self-esteem. They're worth every penny, so contribute today!


316 posted on 11/14/2005 9:40:24 AM PST by polymuser (")
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I see nothing wrong with it. There should be places adults can go with out being assaulted by screaming kids.
320 posted on 11/14/2005 9:41:43 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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A sign like this makes me want to eat there. I am a parent and I am amazed at how many totally unruly children go to restaurants now.

Kids being loud in Chuck E Chees on the other hand, is expected.

322 posted on 11/14/2005 9:42:16 AM PST by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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Is this one of those "Brer Rabbit" things? "Please, oh please, don't take your badly parented, ill-behaving kids somewhere else".


323 posted on 11/14/2005 9:43:22 AM PST by ArmstedFragg
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