[King Prout]

there is nothing "new" about ID: it is a recapitulation of the old watchmaker argument - at least 200 years old, and STILL lacking any positive evidence, definition of mechanism, predictive value, or falsification criteria after all that time.

[moog]

"at least 200 years old, and STILL lacking any positive evidence" Hey don't insult watchmakers.:) To me there is plenty of evidence, but most of that can't be "proven" in a scientific sense or in a way that would be received by the scientific community.

There is plenty of evidence for evolution too. It's why I believe that at least some of it applies in formulating my beliefs about the creation.