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President Bush Job Approval (46%)
Rassmussen ^ | November 12, 2005

Posted on 11/12/2005 9:45:28 AM PST by jmc1969

Forty-six percent (46%) of American adults approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President. Fifty-three percent (53%) of Americans Disapprove of the President's performance.

This is the President's highest Job Approval Rating in over a month.

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: jobapproval; presidentbush; rassmussen; term2
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To: MikeHu
I have to respectfully disagree with you MikeHu, although I do agree with the fact the media is mostly dishonest. I see plenty of republicans on the talk shows being all wobbly kneed and wishy washy and sitting there letting the other side spew their lies unchallenged. It's not that the republicans haven't had the opportunity to challenge, it's that for the most part they won't.
81 posted on 11/12/2005 12:37:20 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: dc_is_burning

Where? When?


82 posted on 11/12/2005 12:43:57 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: jamese777; jennyjenny

The "3% margin of error," is a boilerplate disclaimer -- just like personal trainers will say, "Consult with your doctor before changing your activity or diet," knowing full well that is nonsense and absolves them of any liability. But it certainly sounds authoritative, impressive and intimidating.

The liberal media controls and suppresses the most articulate voices in society -- because it makes them look bad by comparison, and it is their show, and they're supposed to be the stars.


83 posted on 11/12/2005 12:48:36 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: Republic of Texas

I agree.


84 posted on 11/12/2005 12:57:41 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Allah demands you to send your son to die for him, God sent His son to die for me.)
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To: jamese777
It's a fact that Dems are overpolled and Republicans underpolled, james. A FACT.

These are not accurate, even though the hostile media spin is driving the President's numbers down (some people, like us, are educated, some instinctively know the media is lying, but too many are gullible and stupid, and believe things like "Bush bungled the Katrina response" and "Bush is racist" and "Bush lied about WMD," while the rest are leftist and incapable of rational thought).

His poll numbers were way up after 9/11 because for a while the left let up on it's lying attack and mostly acted like Americans. But right now, the poll questions are skewed, the responses are skewed (Republicans aren't polled as much and more often won't do the poll), and the numbers are just plain wrong.

85 posted on 11/12/2005 12:59:12 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Kath; Republic of Texas
"..The drop is from the independents if you read the polls..

Since the tactic of the left is to repeat a lie endlessly until people accept it as truth, I'll sin and repeat a truth endlessly. But, I'm not beating up on you, Kath.

The "polls" as presented to Ohioans a few days before the recent elections gloated that all of the liberal "reform" initiatives, on the upcoming ballot, would pass by 66%. Conservatives might as well not even bother to vote!

In the subsequent "real poll", the vote itself, the "reforms" failed by 66%. The polls are to be used for what they are worth... when you run out of kitty litter.

86 posted on 11/12/2005 12:59:25 PM PST by pickrell (Old dog, new trick...sort of)
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To: jamese777; new yorker 77; ohioWfan; Soul Seeker; PISANO; MikeHu; JulieRNR21; Logical me; ...

"The national polls are very accurate and all one needs do to verify that is to compare their actual findings with actual election results"


You're comparing apples and oranges!

When producing polling data for actual elections, pollsters do the following:
1.) survey 'likely voters',
2.) weight 'likely voter' responses according to party affiliation/demographic constants from previous elections, e.g., 37R:37D:26I (11/04)
3.) avoid push polling questions like the plague (responses to such questions are too easily disproven by actual polling results).


When producing polling data during periods between elections, pollsters do the following:
1.) survey 'adults' only (i.e., anyone with a pulse -- typically the elderly and the unemployed)
2.) rarely weight according to party affiliation/demographic constants -- this gives pollsters license to grossly OVERSAMPLE Demcrats/Democrat-leaning Independents (who also just happen to be unemployed females living in the Northeast) -- review the polling samples for recent AP/Ipsos Reid, Pew, Newsweek, CBSNews/NYTimes and ABCNews/WashPost polls!
3.) use 'push' polling techniques designed to shape rather than elicit public opinion.


Guess which approach is currently being used by MOST pollsters?!


87 posted on 11/12/2005 1:04:40 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: ohioWfan

If YOU can see through all these clumsy deceptions and manipulations, what makes you think others can't also? Are you that much more intelligent and perceptive than everybody else?

That is the attitude of the liberal supremacists -- that they are just so much smarter than everybody else, and that is why it is their duty to tell the masses what to think -- no matter what deceptions and manipulations are expedient. That is the biggest problem.

Most people underestimate the intelligence and perceptiveness of everybody else, and overestimate their own intelligence and perceptiveness.


88 posted on 11/12/2005 1:08:02 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: jmc1969

CNN must be mad.


89 posted on 11/12/2005 1:09:41 PM PST by hershey
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To: dc_is_burning
this is exactly what i'm talking about.

What is? You have a problem with people deciding to withhold their own money to the republican party until they start doing what we elected them to do?

90 posted on 11/12/2005 1:10:46 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: MikeHu

That's what the media is trying to do -- convince you that everybody else has been duped -- and so you should be too.


91 posted on 11/12/2005 1:14:37 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: DrDeb
Excellent points and this just shows how easily polls are manipulated by the MSM.

Another key difference between approval polls and elections is obvious but often overlooked: the question "do you approve of how the President is doing his job" is totally different from the question "if the election was held today, would you vote for Bush, Kerry, or someone else?" Answers to the approval question depend a lot on the person's expectations for the economy, WOT, Iraq, etc., while the election vote question is a choice between a number of non-ideal candidates. Very rarely does any voter view a candidate as the ideal person for the job. So a significant percentage of people who disapprove of Bush's job performance today would still vote for Bush instead of Kerry or anyone else on the ballot last year. So job approval numbers for a President are usually lower than his percentage of the popular vote if an election were held today.

92 posted on 11/12/2005 1:16:31 PM PST by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: MikeHu
Whoa there, Mike........are you saying that those of us who pay attention to what's going on are not more aware than a large percentage of the American public?

Please clarify.........not that many people know how skewed these polls really are. They really think the President is taking it on the chin.

I made an exception for those whose common sense tells them not to turn on the President because of what the media is trying to force down their throats, but we DO have a mushy middle. Are you saying they don't exist?

93 posted on 11/12/2005 1:33:32 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: DrDeb
Anyone who thinks election polls are accurate and unbiased should look no further than Bill Clinton 65% Job Approval getting 49% of the vote in 1996, and George W. Bush getting 51% of the vote when the majority of lib polling firms had him at 49% Job Approval or lower.

Rasmussen got 2002 and 2004 right on.

Most other pollsters got it dead wrong.

Furthermore, I'm a conservative. Anyone who believes MSM polls is not a real conservative. Their polling undersamples Republicans all the time. Most conservatives do not trust the biased MSM. It's the frauds who speak with a forked tongue and claim that the polling part of the MSM propaganda machine should be taking seriously.

Polls from the MSM do not get me angry any more.

The MSM lies.

The MSM only finds value in dead troops or 'screw ups'

I do not worry about them.

I live in Westchester County, NY.

No upsets in the 2005 election here.

Dems do worse in NJ and Virginia in 2005 versus 2001.

Come on.

Bottom line. If the GOP moves toward the base like they did in 2002 and 2004, they'll be fine. The coarse correction worked in 2002.

Deb, you can throw all these biased polls in the trash along with their falling newspaper circulation and tv ratings.

94 posted on 11/12/2005 1:37:30 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: jennyjenny; dc_is_burning
Beware of anyone calling a conservative with standards a 'rabid neocon,' jenny.

This guy's no conservative. He doesn't even understand what a conservative is.

Not sending money to Senators who don't do what they say they're going to do is somehow questionable to this 'dude.' That says all that needs to be said about the guy, IMO.....

95 posted on 11/12/2005 1:39:04 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: DrDeb
Moreover.

Deb,

Anyone who angrily disagrees with your assessment of polling is a poser. A lib trying to rile an honest conservative like yourself. It takes a fake to buy into fake polls.
96 posted on 11/12/2005 1:40:56 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: pickrell
The Ohio issue polls are a great example of how phony this whole poll ploy is, pickrell.

Outsiders foisting a leftist takeover of Ohio elections, pollsters saying they were 'poised to pass,' and then Issues 2-5 going down in flames (70% NO on 2 of them, I believe).

Anyone who actually believes these polls needs some serious help.

97 posted on 11/12/2005 1:46:01 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Republic of Texas; Kath; DrDeb

His conservative Republican base still supports him in big numbers. Your contention is not accurate, Republic.


98 posted on 11/12/2005 1:47:56 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: GBoettner
It's been previously stated that this poll was taken prior to the speech yesterday.

But then again, the President has always had a backbone, so your post isn't relevant anyway.

100 posted on 11/12/2005 2:02:07 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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