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Senators Get an Earful on Destructive Nature of Porn
Agape Press ^ | 11/11/05 | Bill Fancher

Posted on 11/11/2005 7:16:29 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: AntiGuv

PS. I will even recommend the nations for her: Norway (68.2% Internet connected), South Korea (65.2% Internet connected), and New Zealand (77.7% Internet connected). There. A few well-connected populations that match with the U.S. in penetration (68.7%) and represent a spectrum of the world.

Let's find the same trends there and then we'll talk.


41 posted on 11/11/2005 7:58:19 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: wagglebee

What is the percentage of men who become "dysfunctional" as it were because of porn addiction? I didn't notice that in the article.


42 posted on 11/11/2005 7:59:35 PM PST by Torie
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To: wagglebee

Isn't Kennedy on this sub-committee?

That's more than enough to be scary
and damage the credibility of the
entire group.


43 posted on 11/11/2005 8:01:14 PM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: AntiGuv

I didn't notice that you were already on this thread when I pinged you, you moth to the flame you.


44 posted on 11/11/2005 8:01:18 PM PST by Torie
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To: wagglebee
I think there are a lot of FReepers who like to look at beautiful women, but I don't know about hardcore pornography.

Agree. There is a difference indeed.

45 posted on 11/11/2005 8:05:53 PM PST by Paul_Denton (The U.S. should adopt the policy of Oom Shmoom: Israeli policy where no one gives a sh*t about U.N.)
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To: Torie
What laws do we need, and what enforcement do we need, to save America from itself?

You should make me absolute dictator. For life, of course. I'll fix everything up, you betcha.

46 posted on 11/11/2005 8:08:19 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Senator Bedfellow

Sounds like a plan. :)


47 posted on 11/11/2005 8:08:49 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

I don't believe in half-measures :)


48 posted on 11/11/2005 8:10:50 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Torie

hehe - the irony is that I'm supposed to be reading an essay on Christian sexual mores in Late Antiquity.


49 posted on 11/11/2005 8:11:38 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: wagglebee

How the U.S. Senate has any moral authority with the way they behave is what I find astounding. That's like asking Clinton to guard the Playboy Mansion.

I'm all in favor of protection at libraries, schools and areas where children frequent. The big problem, however, is that much internet porn exists outside the boundaries of the United States so the only way to regulate it is to regulate (and tax) the internet itself and I am very much opposed to that.

I also think it is narrow-minded to view pornography as the culprit when teenaged girls dress like hookers and broadcast tv is filled with graphic sexual topics - daytime and nighttime. We've slid halfway down the slippery slope and it will only get worse unless the people, themselves, decide to right it. It can't be done from external forces - only from within, meaning a spiritual reawakening.


50 posted on 11/11/2005 8:11:56 PM PST by Tall_Texan (HOUSTON ASTROS - NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 2005)
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To: AntiGuv

Well America might be late antiquity redux, or maybe not, so maybe this thread is relevant to your studies, or maybe it isn't. Was late antiquity cracking down on porn, or giving up the good fight? When exactly was late antiquity? I think that about sums up the issue in a nutshell.


51 posted on 11/11/2005 8:16:13 PM PST by Torie
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Flipped the finger? Would have been meaningless to the terrorist. Should have given him the thumbs up. To us it means OK but to them it is quite offensive.


52 posted on 11/11/2005 8:16:58 PM PST by Jason_b
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To: wagglebee

Praise the Lord that the federal government wants to decide what's best for me, again.

Another, "I'm from the federal government and I'm here to help save you from yourself." Oh joy.

What was that about getting the government off my back? I remember something about that from a Republican president in the 80's. I think that was the last time I heard it.


53 posted on 11/11/2005 8:25:21 PM PST by DaGman
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To: wagglebee

Let me look on my own terms. What chaps me bad are these annoying sex ad pop-ups which screw up my browser and tangle my searches. If thoughts could kill there would be lots of dead pervert advertisors. This has to stop.


54 posted on 11/11/2005 8:30:58 PM PST by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: wagglebee
Beautiful woman ping

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55 posted on 11/11/2005 9:16:23 PM PST by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toilet)
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To: Torie
Late Antiquity was the period from 200 CE to 500 CE - basically the era of the decline and fall of the Western Roman Empire. However, as I explained to you in that other thread a while back, the Roman Empire declined during the centuries when sexual norms were becoming steadily more repressive. The Roman Empire was established as an expansionist and then hegemonic power during the centuries when sexual norms were becoming steadily more libertine.

BTW, I did look into the topic we'd discussed further and found one article in particular that very nicely summarizes the spectrum of recent scholarship in that regard. Fertility control in the classical world: was there an ancient fertility transition?

Here's the money quote (bold emphasis added):

Two points stand out from the recent explosion of demographic analysis of the classical world, particularly that associated with Frier and Scheidel. The first is that much of classical demography, originally deduced from literary sources and burial inscriptions, remains essentially unchanged. Mortality levels, marriage ages, and the age gap between spouses calculated 40 and even 100 years ago remain largely unchallenged, and certainly within the bounds set by recent scholarship. The second point is that, by drawing on new demographic techniques developed for use in the developing world or in analysing the modern Western demographic transition, researchers have been able to adduce limited but important findings tending to show that the Roman population was probably a near-stationary, near-natural-fertility regime. There was probably no decline and fall of the Roman Empire's population. Although urbanization certainly declined from the later centuries of the Empire to the Dark Ages towards the end of the first millennium, total population may not have followed a similar path. It may have remained stationary for a thousand years or followed the gentle upward exponential growth curve that McEvedy and Jones (1978) alone posited, with subsequent agreement by Maddison (2001). Certainly, it was periodically subject to mortality crises, such as resulted from the Antonine plague of the late second century, probably measles (Scheidel 2002), and the Justinian plague of the sixth century, almost certainly bubonic.

If I could remember the person who was posting all that nonsense before, I would pass the link along so maybe they could improve their research.

56 posted on 11/11/2005 9:17:57 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: wagglebee; thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Okay, imagine this: Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin (I know, some of you think he was a rake, but if you've read his autobiography you are familiar with his philosophy of life), John Adams, Patrick Henry, to name a few. Now imagine them entering an "Adult" porn store, or sitting in front of a computer for the first time, and seeing the plethora of graphic pornography on the internet.

What do you think they would say? "Great! This is exactly what the First Amendment is for!" or "My God in Heaven! Is this what the Republic has sunk to?"

The First Amendment was never meant to protect pornography. I personally know a number of people whose lives have destroyed be pornography. And that includes some children.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


57 posted on 11/11/2005 9:19:01 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Cicero
Aye matey where's the porn

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58 posted on 11/11/2005 9:19:13 PM PST by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toilet)
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To: tflabo
You don't have a pop up blocker???? My gawd do you use propane to run you're computer??? LOL!! Google toolbar has a very good blocker. And to those concerned I enjoy looking at handsome MEN the fewer the clothes the better. I'm not some young thing but I ain't dead or blind either.
59 posted on 11/11/2005 9:21:37 PM PST by BruceysMom ("Scott Peterson is such an amateur!"-Michael Shiavo)
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To: little jeremiah

Good post, jeremiah.

I'm bookmarking this thread for tomorrow. Then I'll give those Libertine Libertarians some HELL.


60 posted on 11/11/2005 9:22:54 PM PST by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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