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To: astounded

FR doesn't need statements like this.
You say that Hinduism is a 'real' religion, but Islam is not.
Ever heard of the Cult of Kali, Hindu goddess of death? Their idea of worship was to randomly garotte strangers as sacrifices to the black goddess.
The Brits (who were running India at the time) took the expedient step of killing every Thuggee (the name of the cultists, where we get the word 'thug') that they could lay their hands on. The senseless killings didn't stop until the last of the cultists were dead.
It's the same thing here with Islam. Don't you dare condemn an entire faith because of a bunch of depraved cultists.
Or should we judge all Christians by the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Witch Burnings, and the Abortion Clinic Bombings? Oh, right- they were doing "God's work" and killing evil people, so that excuses the violence.
That's the same excuse Al-Zarqawi used, as reported in today's newspaper.


31 posted on 11/11/2005 7:13:59 AM PST by Ostlandr ("Billions down the drain, and we ain't plugged it yet." - Federal Government motto)
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To: Ostlandr

Maybe I was off the mark including Hinduism in my post. However, I stand by my views of islam and its purveyors. Where in the Bible does it say that it is the duty of Christians to convert non-believers or kill them if they refuse? Abortion clinic bombers? One or two have cropped up, but islamic murderers are rampant worldwide. I will condemn an entire "faith" - islam - because it is not a faith in the sense most people in the civilized West consider one to be. It is a cult.


36 posted on 11/11/2005 7:24:26 AM PST by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: Ostlandr

There are over 160 passages in the Qur'an that teach that it is the responsibility of Muslims to either convert, subjugate, or kill unbelievers -- especially Jews and Christians. The ahadith, collections of sayings and deeds of Mohammed, are considered inspired by Muslims and normative for acceptable behavior. There are multiplied hundreds of statements made by "the prophet" urging all faithful disciples to kill, terrorize, and brutalize. Jihad is defined in these documents as holy war - NOT inner struggle. And it is incumbent on all good Muslims to participate. When Muslims participate in terror and murder, they are not radicals who have "hijacked" a peaceful religion. THEY ARE SIMPLY DOING WHAT THEIR HOLY BOOKS COMMAND THEM TO DO. As long as there are people who believe that Mohammed was a prophet of God, and that the Qur'an is the word of God, this stuff will never go away.


40 posted on 11/11/2005 7:48:45 AM PST by Designed
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To: Ostlandr

His point is that any religion that explicitly calls for the INITIATION of force in its sacred texts is invalid.

Anyway, regarding the Christian examples...

Crusades: Counterattack in a much larger and longer war.
Witch Burnings: If there really exist people who are cursing and killing others through dark magic, what would you do with them?
Abortion Clinic Bombings: Small number of people explicitly, clearly and loudly condemned by the overwhelming majority of their co-religionists. Abortion clinic bombing also can't be justified using the Gospels or the Catechism.


47 posted on 11/11/2005 7:59:01 AM PST by Netheron
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To: Ostlandr

What FR doesn't need is.....

EQUIVOCATORS


62 posted on 11/13/2005 8:28:41 AM PST by wardaddy (Captain Spaulding (the perfect dinner guest))
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