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To: Torie
It really is remarkable how that no brainer of a ballot initiative is so controversial and relatively close.

While Cali is a sideshow, of course, it does shoe how far behind the pro life movement is in heavily populated states/urban areas.

The issue is not whether those areas think abortions should be legal or not (crystal clearly, these folks have no major problem with abortions). The issue is whether a minor can get an abortion (surgery, after all) without her parents knowing. Given that a minor can't go on a class trip or get a cavity filled without parental permission, this mindset is just psychotic.

It is, nonetheless, real.

The battle lines on abortion in many regions of the country are clearly not where the pro life movement wants them to be, especially given this shocking close race in our biggest state. At this point in the evening, I wouldn't be shocked it it even loses (somehow).
289 posted on 11/08/2005 9:31:14 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY
Considering people here back abortion rights, its amazing Prop. 73 has a chance at all. What this election has exposed is the vacuousness of the Left. They have no positive agenda, no ideas and no momentum. Letting em keep bashing Arnold - they'll make him appear a sympathetic figure next year since they don't know when to stop.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

307 posted on 11/08/2005 9:35:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: HitmanNY

Always remember that it's hard to win a referendum. People who don't care about an issue one way or another tend to vote "no". It shows how strongly the public opposes same sex marriage that initiatives to ban it pass by such wide margins. Also, abortion is an issue where it's easier for the left to blur things ("What if a girl has been raped by her uncle who has AIDS?", etc.), and the blurring leads to people voting "no" as a cautionary measure.

Hopefully 73 will pass.


319 posted on 11/08/2005 9:38:38 PM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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