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"[Sam the Sham:]There is such a thing as an American mainstrean with the God-hating, pro-sodomite, cultural elite Europe worshipping secularist outside it at one end and the Social Darwinist, free trade at all costs, "Ive go mine so screw you" libertarian outside it at the other...they are both pagans so I wonder how opposite they really are?"

I thought the spectrum was more like: Sodom and Gomorrah on one end...and on the other...a Christ abiding Representative Republic.

"a Christ abiding Representative Republic"? You are joking, yes?

65 posted on 11/09/2005 7:13:45 AM PST by A. Pole (Gov.Gumpas:"But that would be putting the clock back, have you no idea of progress, of development?")

"You are joking, yes?"

My observation includes past history. Does that exist now? Only in the hearts of those who would prefer the Republic the Founding Fathers established.