French youths riot again (Paris/France Riots Live Thread Night #13)

Reuters ^ | November 8, 2005 | Tom Heneghan

[bonfire]

Does Tiki carry a "man-bag" too? :)

[OldFriend]

Tiki Barber (sp?) he's a football hero on the Giants!

He has a twin brother. Both well educated and articulate.

[bonfire]

Obviously, I know less than nothing about football.......much to my sons lament!

[mainepatsfan]

Perhaps it's a preemptive surrender.

[OldFriend]

France is weak. It has weak leaders and no will to enforce law and order.

When Blair did not get all mealy mouthed about the shooting of the suspected terrorist (who was innocent), he sent a message. We will shoot to kill and ask questions later.

As long as Blair maintains a tough posture the jihadists will be careful in England.

[bonfire]

LOL I think we could make some money right here in the U.S. Let's do road tours of the worst ghetto's and rake in some $$$. People will pay to see anything, obviously!

[blondee123]

 

Q. How do you say hello in French?

A. "I Surrender."

Q. How many French soldiers does it take to defend Paris?

A. Don't know, it's never been tried.

 

Q: How do you confuse a French Soldier?

A: Give him a rifle and ask him to shoot it.

 

Q: What's the motto of the US Marine Corps?

A: Semper Fi (Always Faithful)

Q: What's the motto of the French Army?

A: Stop, drop, and run!

 

Q. What do you call 100,000 Frenchmen with their hands up?

A. Their army.

 

Q: How can you identify a French Infantryman?

A: Sunburned armpits.

 

Q: What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad?

A: A salesman.

 

Q: Why do the French call their fighter the *Mirage*?

A: Because it doesn't really exist.

 

Q: What do you call a man who only needs body armour on his back?

A: Jacques Chirac

 

Q: What’s the new French flag look like?

A: A white cross emblazoned on a white background!

 

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[OldFriend]

Berlin had car burnings over the weekend. It remains to be seen how the newly formed government deals with this incipient crisis.

How they act now will determine whether they get the Paris treatment or not.

[PigRigger]

Would be great to see Forrester pull it out.....than again, so many Repubs and Dems are now one in the same.....spend, spend, spend......Sorry, I'm starting to get disillusioned; the two party system doesn't appear to be two party any more.....I live in NY and we have Pataki...just another moderate Dem.....The only real true fiscally conservative elected official I know is our county executive in Suffolk county, Steve Levy....and he is Dem......He didn't get my vote the first time, sure as hell will next time.....Ok I'm done with my rant.....

[OldFriend]

NJ is corrupt to the point that there is no difference between the dems and repubs. The repubs worked hard to get McGreevy elected. They liked the way they got payoffs to vote with him.

[TaxRelief]

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11/06/2005 - 16:48

Gasoline bomb-making factory found in Paris suburb Six youths, all aged under 18, were arrested in the raid Saturday night on an abandoned building in Evry, south of Paris, where the gasoline bombs were being put together.

Police found a gasoline bomb-making factory in a southern suburb of Paris, with more than 100 bottles, litres of fuel and hoods for hiding rioters' faces, a senior Justice Ministry official said Sunday. Six youths, all aged under 18, were arrested in the raid Saturday night on an abandoned building in Evry, south of Paris, where the gasoline bombs were being put together, Jean-Marie Huet told The Associated Press. Police found "150 bottles prepared for use as Molotov cocktails, of which 50 were ready to be used, tens of litres of gasoline and hoods," said Huet, the ministry's director of criminal affairs and pardons. The discovery, he said, shows that gasoline bombs being used by rioters "are not being improvised by kids in their bathrooms."

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[Alia]

The law abiding will obey that curfew. This then singles out those who are out after the curfew.

[maggief]

A city technician uses a a high pressure hose to remove Nazi crosses from desecrated gravestones of the Jewish graveyard of Remiremont in the Vosges montains, eastern France November 8, 2005. Some 20 gravestones were found desecrated with swastikas on Monday evening in the Jewish part of the graveyard of Remiremont. REUTERS/Vincent Kessler



A bus burns at the entrance of 'Le Mirail', a neighbourhood of Toulouse, France. The French government has approved giving curfew powers to regional authorities to stem the worst urban violence the country has seen in nearly four decades, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said after a cabinet meeting.(AFP/Lionel Bonaventure)

[Caipirabob]

Zut alors! All I azk eez a pair of boots to lick. Zis iz too much to azk?

[Alia]

Terrif' map - thanks for posting. Question: Are the "looters" shouting "no justice, no peace'?

[cricket]

. . .found heavy arms and grenades and had asked for the Army to be brought in since the second night of the riots.

But they are only youths.. . .oui?

[mainepatsfan]

Still it would be funny if he won just to embarrass the Dems.

[Alia]

Of course the French could swat this little rebellion like a fly, they have the means and the know how.

You are right in the ensuing post of yours.

Right now, IMHO, the battle seems quite pointed in perspective: One side views the "rioters" in purely socio-economic terms; the other side views the "rioters" in purely "values" as in moral codes, terms.

So really, it's a clash of "perspective" in how to deal with what is going on in France right now. The first group are usually academics and multi-culturalists viewing humans as manipulable cogs. Whereas the second group sees the "rioters" as conducting criminal behavior stemming from their belief systems, lack of values, and or religion -- as humans unwilling to adapt to the mores and codes of a civil society.

The first group looks to see what they can do economically to empower the "cogs", appeasement, some say. The second group says to capture and incarcerate the rioters, perhaps with rehabilitation in mind.

Right here, this clash, is exactly what is going on all around the world, including the US. Myron Magnet described it perfectly in his book "The Dream and the Nightmare".

The appeasement model involves "quotas" (which don't work) and lots and lots of social welfare, human social experimentation, and ultimately more laws. Create an "exception" for any group of people, and what results are more laws carved to "govern" and surround that group of "special" people.

This then creates a culture at war with each other -- between those given special treatment, and those not receiving the same.

The ICC is of the former group -- appeasers vaunting special rights for some based upon the ideology of "preferential treatments" due stemming from an academic view of "economically disadvantagement" as the reason for "core values" gone wrong. Thereby granting, saint status, to criminals.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Has it occurred to anyone that some French (non-Muslims) may be taking advantage of the riots to trash their own vehicles (for insurance, etc.) or taking revenge for perceived wrongs by someone? I wouldn't be surprised...

[conservativepoet]

Total car count is over 6000 cars.