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Mecca and the black rock (Vanity)
vanity | 11/07/2005 | AmericanDave

Posted on 11/07/2005 9:14:49 PM PST by AmericanDave

I've heard the at Mecca in the pilgramage area they worship a black rock that fell, a meteorite. Anybody know the truth of this and the meaning?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; mecca; muslims
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To: sageb1

/shrug. At least here she knows what she is talking about.


21 posted on 11/07/2005 9:28:11 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: AmericanDave

Black stone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone


22 posted on 11/07/2005 9:28:14 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: VRWCTexan
Correct.

I've been there, seen the rock. There's a cave underneath the rock that the Muslims believe was created as the earth tried to keep Muhammed from ascending to heaven.

Archaeologists believe it was the place where the bones and residue from the animal sacrifices were temporarily stored for the Jewish Temple rites. I don't remember if they said the cave was man-made or not.

23 posted on 11/07/2005 9:29:01 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: AmericanDave
"Caaba, n. A large stone presented by the archangel Gabriel to the patriarch Abraham, and preserved in Mecca. The patriarch had perhaps asked the archangel for bread."
Ambrose Bierce
24 posted on 11/07/2005 9:29:31 PM PST by GSlob
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To: AmericanDave
Black Stone
25 posted on 11/07/2005 9:30:32 PM PST by wideminded
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To: AmericanDave
It is the first lump of coal given out by Santa Claus on Christmas.
26 posted on 11/07/2005 9:33:04 PM PST by msnimje ("People for the American Way have issued a Fatwah against Alito" --- John Cornyn)
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To: AmericanDave

I've heard that too. Cannot elaborate on it, but I think it's true. Probably is an old Renault. hhaha.


27 posted on 11/07/2005 9:33:16 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: sageb1

I think that Freud would say that there is obvious symbolism here.


28 posted on 11/07/2005 9:33:32 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Cyclopean Squid

"He felt that paganism was holding the Arabs back from joining the great civilizations" -- well, he certainly was right on that.


29 posted on 11/07/2005 9:34:57 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: AmericanDave
[ Anybody know the truth of this and the meaning? ]

Yeah Allah dont like them either.. He chucked a rock at them..

30 posted on 11/07/2005 9:35:18 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: msnimje

"It is the first lump of coal given out by Santa Claus on Christmas."

LOL, ding ding ding, we have a winner!


31 posted on 11/07/2005 9:35:43 PM PST by AmericanDave (God bless .......and MORE COWBELL)
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To: Bosco

Except the A-rabs believe Abraham was going to sacrifice Ishmael. And that the Dome of the Rock was NOT built over Solomon's Temple. And that....


32 posted on 11/07/2005 9:36:44 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Cyclopean Squid

Black Rock is the name that PNC assigns to all of their own investment funds. That's a scary thought.


33 posted on 11/07/2005 9:41:35 PM PST by Eva
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To: AmericanDave

It's the dottle from Mohammed's hookah.


34 posted on 11/07/2005 9:41:58 PM PST by MistrX
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To: AmericanDave

Is there a relationship between the Borg and Muslims? If you don't answer right, you will be assimilated!
35 posted on 11/07/2005 9:43:15 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Eva

I thought that was CBS's headquarters in New York


37 posted on 11/07/2005 9:44:24 PM PST by airedale ( XZ)
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To: AmericanDave
If you mean the Kaaba (spelling) it isn't a black rock. It is a "room" shrouded in fabric, and that fabric is black with a bunch of phrases from the texts of the quran. Originally it was an isolated home (like "The Holy of Holies" that shrouded the "Ark of the Covenant") that housed the pagan gods of the pre-islamic faiths. The first thing the prophet did upon Reentering Mecca was to enter a sacred place, and draw out the idols of the various gods of the people and destroy them. He then placed the symbol of the Islamic faith in their place. Since he was not struck down, CLEARLY he was the courier of the true god as he said.

I think that is the story of the "black rock" you think you are referencing.
38 posted on 11/07/2005 9:46:47 PM PST by wickedpinto (The road map to peace is a straight line down an Israeli rifle.)
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To: AmericanDave

40 posted on 11/07/2005 9:52:07 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Leftism is Civilizational Masochism)
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