[Dane]

Paris/France burns Live Thread, Night #11

Paris/France burns, Live Thread Night #10

Paris Riots

Five cars in Berlin torched

This is the live thread of the riots and mayhem happening in Paris/France. Any first hand reports or media reports(French or European TV or radio, etc.) of todays and tonights developments are welcome.

[Danae]

Hmmnnnn, looks like Iraq is a lot safer than france now a days...

[NonValueAdded]

The police are "calling for a curfew"??? Heck, even the idiots in Louisiana knew enough to impose a curfew.

[Brofholdonow]

The problem is that this is a clash of two cultures that refuse to bathe.

[Sabramerican]

There is only one solution to this.

Everyone know that when Moslems riot and terrorise it is only because of one thing.

There must be a Palestinian State immediately, with Paris- where Mohammed and his horse stopped to enjoy a croissant on their night journey- as it's capital.

[mainepatsfan]

Glenn Beck just had an idea: make the French pay invasion insurance to us.

[paltz]

France reacts to 'shockwave of riots'

How many days has it been now?

[montag813]

Does anyone have any doubt that if this happened in the U.S. there would be 100 dead Muslims by this point?

[dfwddr]

Where's Looter Guy at this point ???

[My Favorite Headache]

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Mr. Martel. Paging Mr. Charles Martel. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

[Personal Responsibility]

At least 1,408 vehicles were destroyed,

Will the NY Times write up a nice 4200 word piece when they pass the 2,000 vehicle dead milestone?

[Choose Ye This Day]

What are our appeasement-loving friends over at the DUmp saying about the Paris Intifada? A few DUmmies are actually speaking sense, believe it or not. Most, however, are trying to understaaand the "poor" rioters, and take into account their "feeeeeeeeeelings."

Here's a sample:

uppityperson (1000+ posts)

12. People have different reasons for rioting
Lack of jobs, lack of hope to get anywhere beyond the ghetto, simple desire to do mayham and get away with it, upset with global politics, all sorts of things. Humanity is not very humane many times, both on a large and a small scale.

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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts)

1. For all we know, these copycat attacks and the attacks that have
Spread to other regions of France, might very well have been co-ordinated by the Neo-Nazi and National Front movements.

I think the original rioting in Parisien suburbs was 100% legit, and for the reasons that were stated, the young men being electrocuted, the immigrants beef over not being given a fair deal etc.

However I must say that I think the subsequent attacks throughout France and now these outside incidents in Berlin and Brussels are incredibly suspicious.

The Extreme Far-Right has gotten involved in such things before, and for the same reason as they would now...to give ALL immigrants a bad name and to attempt to whip up anti-immigrant hysteria throughout the European continent.

I bet that bastard Jean-Marie Le Pen is loving this.

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wookie294 (1000+ posts)

17. The problem is people think radical Islam is going to "take over" the West
LOL. Gimme a break! The fear is paranoia. This paranoia was used to get America's support for the invasion of Iraq, an invasion that is fomenting radical Islam. I don't trust people who tremble in fear over radical Islamists. They are used by war profiteers and bigots to justify more death and killing.

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wookie294 (1000+ posts)

28. There isn't alot of Islamic terrorism in Europe
People are taking a few murders and one London terrorist attack and deciding it means we're at "war" with Muslims. I think the radical Islamic movement is sort of like the Weathermen in the USA. Did anybody think the radical Leftists in the Weathermen were on the verge of taking over the federal government? No.

19 hijackers does not a "war" make. Sure, radical Islam is a problem, but let's not exaggerate it. The exaggeraters (like Bush) are acually turning moderate Muslims into radicals.

I think 99 percent of Muslims do respect and abide by the traditions of their new country in the same way that America's Amish or orthodox Jews do.

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wookie294 (1000+ posts)

42. Stop discriminating against them
and watch the magic happen! Problem solved.

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wookie294 (1000+ posts)

66. Of course gangsters should be in prison
You are advocating a short-term solution to the problem by advocating a "give 'em hell" attitude. I'd like to see you advocate longer-term solutions for France, including affirmative action to combat racists, greater funds spent on education for poor French citizens, and greater respect by the police for the plight of the poor. The rioters won this "war" because these solutions **will** be put in place. France has no choice. Riots in America during the 1960s were successful in changing the system as well.

[OXENinFLA]

A policeman showed a shotgun cartridge which police claimed had been shot at them by rioting youths during a confrontation in Grigny, a southern suburb of Paris, Sunday night.

Firefighters extinguished a fire at a kindergarden Sunday night in Lille. Youths fired at police and hurled flaming Molotov cocktails at churches, schools, cars and a daycare center in an 11th night of mayhem in France.

[Stultis]

"I don't want you to worry, Jacques. Just like you personally promised me, and just like Dominique personally promised Colin, and just like your top military leaders assured the Pentagon, that France would be with America in confronting Saddam; so you have my assurances of support for France."

[Fruitbat]

Riots broke out in beacons of disaffection across the country from Lille, on the border with Belgium, to Montpellier on the Mediterranean coast.

Funny, in spite of not speaking the language of their host nation, and in spite of "not being satisfied," these people don't leave back for their homeland.

Hmmm! LOL

[Xenophon450]

"In Grigny, south of the capital, a gang of around 200 youths are reported to have lured police into a housing estate before opening fire with hunting rifles. At least 30 officers were injured, two seriously with lead pellets in the legs and neck."

Do gun bans work? No

[redgolum]

For later ping.

So far things haven't gotten real bad. No major deaths, but I fear that will change.

[Fruit of the Spirit]

How come we're not hearing about the Muslim rioting going on in Denmark?

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover110405.htm

To which, my friend from 'downunder' replies:

I am still waiting to hear of a fatwah (a Muslim call for the death of those Muslims who have offended Muslim sensitivies) against Osama bin Laden, the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, the PLO, Jemal Islamiyah and
other terrorist leaders and organizations. As for the innocent Muslims amongst us, they seem unable to surrender the terrorists living behind their protection. The French authorities need to come to grips with the
fact that French people -- and British, Danish, Dutch, Germans and Belgians -- really do not like Muslims (for whatever reasons) in their societies. Australians are edgy about them, too.
It's a very vexed problem.

[Yossarian]

Coming soon?:

Wake up, France!

[indcons]

The intifada is getting more serious, I guess: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517415/posts