Posted on 11/07/2005 2:44:49 AM PST by Dane
I agree.
This is the larger meaning of the ritual murder of Theo Van Gogh in Holland, the subway bombings in London, the train bombings in Madrid, the Paris riots spreading across France. The perpetrators of these crimes in the capitals of Europe are the children of immigrants who were once the colonial subjects of the European empires. At this writing, the riots are entering their 12th night and have spread to Rouen, Lille, Marseille, Toulouse, Dijon, Bordeaux, Strasbourg, Cannes, Nice. Thousands of cars and buses have been torched and several nursery schools fire-bombed. One fleeing and terrified woman was doused with gasoline and set ablaze. The rioters are of Arab and African descent, and Muslim. While almost all are French citizens, they are not part of the French people. For never have they been assimilated into French culture or society. And some wish to remain who and what they are. They live in France but are not French. The rampage began October 27 when two Arab youths, fleeing what they mistakenly thought was a police pursuit, leapt onto power lines and were electrocuted. The two deaths ignited the riots. Interior Minister Nicholas Sarkozy, a candidate to succeed President Chirac, is said to have infuriated and inflamed the rioters. Before the rampage began, he promised “war without mercy” on crime in the teeming suburbs where unemployment runs at 20% and income is 40% below the national average. He has denounced the rioters as “scum” and “rabble.” Like the urban riots in America in the 1960s, which the Kerner Commission blamed on “white racism,” Paris’s riots are being blamed on France’s failure to bring Islamic immigrants into the social and economic mainstream of the nation. Solutions being offered range from voting rights for non-citizens to affirmative action in hiring for the children of Third World immigrants. http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=10116
Their egoes and cockiness will never allow that to happen. They are smug and are getting it right in the kisser and right where Chirac has led them.
Your posts today show that I was wrong. You are sticking by your points but, willing to change them and admit being wrong if proven as such. That shows a lot about you.
Here is the most tortuous massaging of a statistic I think I've ever seen, from this story:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/08/wfran08.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/11/08/ixportaltop.html
"Of the 1,200 people arrested, more than 30 - half of them juveniles - have already been jailed or given youth custody."
Meant to throw the word "youth" around, but let's reinterpret this shall we?
"Of 1,200 people arrested, 1185 were not youths at all!"
Of course they may be saying just a sampling of 30 had 50% youth in it, but why twist it around so much? Unless the youth factor is lacking and needs some dressing up.
"Tough for some to break out of the template that some hold dear, isn't it? The more I read, the more I think this is not much about Islam, and much more about an underclass youth riot, one that France is obviously not used to dealing with effectively. The Immans run around trying to calm things, but the thugs are their own agenda. The upside is that it will indeed I suspect cause the French to think about their future."
I think you are right in your analysis.
But you are more optimistic than I about the outcome. You think the French will think about their future. Yes.
But the nettle which must be grasped: labor law reform, will not even come onto the horizon. I hope I'm wrong about this, but it is difficult to be optimistic.
BLAME THE VICTIM.
I did not see the Allah akbar video.
Was it from France or from Denmark?
"For goodness sake, do you 'hear' yourself? The 'Beurs' are not poor. They are clothed, sheltered and eat...SO SOMEONE ELSE IS PAYING FOR THEIR CLOTHES, THEIR FOOD AND THE ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD???? AND FOR THAT, THEY BURN PARIS?????"
Man does not live by bread alone.
I don't have any idea what that's supposed to mean. Are you saying I'm wrongly doing so, or that I should do so. Or that the author of the quoted text is doing so. If so, is he wrong or right?
Civil rights movements tend to trump labor laws in developed democracies. If the Muslim kids had done a peaceful civil disobedience thing, I suspect the changes would be fairly rapid. Plus, I think the world now knowing that France has Ameican style slums, and an underclass, will hurt their pride. The French have as much of that, as they do of selfishness. We shall see, how their competing thoughts and emotions play out.
In Australia, some 80% of the workforce is employed by private enterprise with less than 100 employees on the pay-roll.
How could we, if we had a similar 'problem of unemployed Beur Yoots' in this country, reform our labour laws to accommodate and include this so called 'group' ?
I ask this question because I am of the opinion your private enterprise employers could not be that different...it's still a matter of supply and demand, is it not?
Are you thinking that the government of France should nationalize industry? And give everyone a job...worked well for the USSR, LOL!
It reads like the classic blame the victim text.
Hanson seems to think these punks don't speak French. That is probably a false assumption. They probably speak it fluently.
Another born genius. Don't rebuild a damn thing, let them starve and freeze this winter. Maybe the fellow mussies of this scum can eat him and use his hide for warmth?
France has divisions of tanks, they are the 90% majority of the nation, the Islamics stand out from the rest of the people, there is no friendly border for the islamics to cross and regroup....this is only an insurgency because the French lack a spine.
US media is self centered, sensationalized and devoid of anything that might interest anyone with more then a public high school education. It is meant as the circus for the dim masses. Why else is the news of a school teacher's disappearance or a drunk college girl's disappearance the most important thing on TV? Where is world news? Gone. Where is economic news, only on such a level as to give the dim consumers a feel good to keep going into debt. Where is the indepth political debate on issues? Ehh, to boring, sound bites are much better. The dim masses can't comprehend more then a sound bite anyways. /sarcasm
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no words, all in pictures....
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