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To: hosepipe
Abe was not a Founder. Nor was Jefferson he was in Paris during the CC fortunately besides he was more rhetoric than anything else.

Hamilton was for a strong central government and had no sympathy for an armed rabble.

Pulling out a bunch of canned quotes does nothing to change the reality of the thought of the Founders.

By creating a representative republic the means to change and control the government was placed in the hands of the people. As long as there is such a republic armed revolt is both unnecessary and illegal.

Should that government change into something else all bets are off. But it is also rather foolish to believe that an untrained undisciplined force would stand much of a chance against a real army. Those who fought the Revolution found that out to their dismay. Only because Washington trained a real army to avoid reliance upon the militias was he able to defeat the British. Most of the time the militias were of little value.

But don't let reality interfere with romantic braggadocio.
97 posted on 11/09/2005 12:44:16 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
[ Should that government change into something else all bets are off. But it is also rather foolish to believe that an untrained undisciplined force would stand much of a chance against a real army. Those who fought the Revolution found that out to their dismay. Only because Washington trained a real army to avoid reliance upon the militias was he able to defeat the British. Most of the time the militias were of little value. But don't let reality interfere with romantic braggadocio. ]

So you can read the founders minds eh.. LoL..
Against a whole real army.. Hmmm.. The Viet Cong did well.. and the muzzies in France are doing well as we speak.. All it takes is for "the public" to get busy.. Then politicians will reassess their priorities.. and if the public does it with guns.. journalists will reassess theirs as well..

Even, If (the first) erstward revolution was unsuccessful.. the public dialog resulting from that would be refreshing in itself.. Actually a real revolution might not be needed just a real THREAT of one happening might be all thats needed.. Journalists facing the real possibly of getting hung or shot might make some of them get their priorities in order..

Now that I think of it..

A REAL DIALOG MIGHT BE ALL THATS NECESSARY.. not lawyers weasling but a real dialog.. Otherwise there IS blood in our future, domestic blood letting.. Freedom always costs blood.. one way or another.. Hiding from the huge political polarization in this country is cowardice and unrealistic not to speak of silly.. The American pressure cooker will soften some but harden others..

Go have a beer, it could make you feel better about all this.. Americans are slow to anger.. but when they do.. you're prezels will hit the fan.. It won't be pretty..

103 posted on 11/09/2005 1:22:30 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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